• cfgaussian
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    I wouldn’t bet on it. Westerners will understand nothing until they experience total societal collapse.

  • QueerCommie
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    No, Amerikkkan dominance is great, we just just need to vote it back into the right hands.

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      Trump winning by a landslide and European libs now waking up and realizing that, maybe, outsourcing your military security and economy to the US is not exactly the wisest of things

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        The European libs are barely even cognisant of the concepts of dollar hegemony or uni/multi polarity. For them, politics is a struggle between good and evil.

      • mathemachristian [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Why would that matter? The US would blow up any infrastructure for an independent Europe like they did with Nord Stream 2. Failing that, look at what they did to Ukraine. There is no way out for Europe unless we commit collective class suicide on a national level and good luck convincing the libs of that.

      • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Europe’s entire economy hinges on American hegemony. EU is literally unable to decouple from the US without completely restructuring its entire economy and political structure.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          To be fair, Europe was starting to get integrated with the east economically. Germany had cheap energy from Russia, and China was a huge market. If things kept going the way they were, eventually the US grip on Europe would loosen as a result. Hence why we had to have a war in Ukraine.

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            TBH, I don’t think “turning Eastern Europe and Russia into an extraction semicolony for the EU” can be considered a good development. Of course, we then had an even worse development.

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              Yeah, Russia was turning into a raw materials exporter for the EU which definitely wasn’t great for them. In the end, things worked out a lot better for Russia than Europe. They now have reliable partners in the Global South who aren’t trying to destroy them, and the war forced Russia to start industrializing again and developing an actual economy.

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        The Europeans made some charade of distancing themselves from the US during Trump’s first term, but then Biden got elected and everyone just forgot why they were ever critical of vassalization to the US in the first place.