A reminder of the unparalleled advances in public health made by communist states. Even if every absurd fabrication that the anti-communist propagandists like to parrot about the millions supposedly killed by Stalin, Mao, etc. was true, those numbers would pale in comparison to the number of lives they saved, the hundreds of millions of life spans extended by entire decades. And if you want the perfect control sample of what it looks like when you start with nearly identical conditions but don’t have communist central planning, look at India.

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    Communism has a proven consistent track record of working, of improving life expectancy, standards of living, of eradicating illiteracy and of creating gender equality.

    Facts don’t care about the feelings of reactionary debate bros: Communism works.

    It is exactly because communism works that reactionary forces have spent so much effort undermining and smearing communist movements. If it was the case that “communism fails every time” there would be no need for the CIA, for Radio Free Asia, for McCarthyism, for building enough nukes to blow up the entire world several times over, for supporting fascists around the globe. All the imperialist nations would have to do was to lean back and let communism fail on its own terms.

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    the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

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    Imagine if the Taiping rebellion happened under the PRC instead the Qing, libs would never, ever, ever shut up about it yet in our reality hardily anyone outside China even knows about it.

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      And if it is even mentioned, it’s often orientalism festival about the “inherently Chinese lack of respect for life and incredible massacres every tuesday”

      Though i also remember quite decent chapter about it in book “Historia Chin” by Witold Rodziński

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    from Jason Hickel & Dylan Sullivan’s Capitalism and extreme poverty: A global analysis of real wages, human height, and mortality since the long 16th century.

    I think people can really underestimate exactly how big a deal is to bring people out of poverty, this is just such a stunning and powerful point that really puts into perspective how differently we view the tragedy of The Great Leap Forward famine in comparison to the tragedy of people remaining extremely poor and just dying from lack of health care.

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      a mortality crisis during the famine from 1958 to 1961, which was induced by a lack of democracy

      How exactly is a famine induced by a lack of democracy?

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        They are comparing post-independence India and China. They say that while China has done better than India in most cases, China has had a major famine while India has had none. This is the part that talks about democracy:

        On the other hand, given the political system of post-independence India, it is extremely hard for any government in office—whether at the state level or at the centre—to get away with neglecting prompt and extensive anti-famine measures at the first signs of a famine. And these signs are themselves more easily transmitted given India’s relatively free media and newspapers, and the active and investigative role that journalists as well as opposition politicians can and do play in this field. The adversarial participation of newspapers and opposition leaders is, as we have discussed earlier, an important part of the Indian famine prevention system. It yields a rapid triggering mechanism and encourages preparedness for entitlement protection.

        The contrast with China is striking primarily in the second respect. Given its system of public distribution, China did not lack a delivery and redistribution mechanism to deal with food shortages as the famine threatened in 1958 and later. Despite the size of the decline of food output and the loss of entitlement of large sections of the population, China could have done a much better job of protecting the vulnerable by sharing the shortage in a bearable way.

        What was lacking when the famine threatened China was a political system of adversarial journalism and opposition.[31] The Chinese famine raged on for three years without it being even admitted in public that such a thing was occurring, and without there being an adequate policy response to the threat. Not only was the world ignorant of the terrible state of affairs in China, even the population itself did not know about the extent of the national calamity and the extensive nature of the problems being faced in different parts of the country.

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    The craziest thing is that him and the Community Party did this while killing 500 bajillion people at the same time.

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      so what happened was he killed off all the weak people and only the super strong people lived and they lived so much longer that in the end it skewed the data

      :iamverysmart:

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      Stalin killed every Soviet citizen and then resurrected them all again just so he could win WWII

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    This stat tells me next to nothing without comparing it to the rest of the world

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      personally i don’t want to live that long… I’m in my 4th decade and if it were my last i wouldn’t be upset about it

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      Chinese call the period from approx. 1850 to 1949 the century of humiliation for many good reasons.

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    Pfft! Any country would’ve had that happen! In fact, if they got rid of the communism, life expectancy would’ve increased even more! Just look at the former Soviet countries, I haven’t, but I’m sure they were doing much better after communism!