I like to bring out the point about them lifting 800 million people out of poverty. No guarantee the person will listen, but it’s a weighty statement. I also like to bring out the one about the US having the highest incarceration rate in the world, for similar reasons. You could try to work on things detail by detail and that’s probably more lasting and influential in the long term, but some of the most surface level facts are “big” on their one. It can be shocking sometimes comparing the differences and sometimes a little jarring rhetoric might be what’s needed to get somebody to stop in their tracks. Some people are deep in the details of lies and some are more gonna be going off vibes of what they heard in passing.

One thing that I’m convinced actually works is to go to China and make videos that humanize the people, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QIEU9KkY5g

“You can say anything about China and people just buy it” is a good one. Doesn’t push too hard right away, doesn’t invite any easy lib talking points in response, and is obviously true enough to get anyone who would ever be receptive to at least pause and think a little.

Arguing with libs online is praxis 😉 https://lemmygrad.ml/search?q=china&type=Comments&listingType=All&creatorId=873207

What ive found works is just to point out that the chinese govt actually does shit to improve the lives of their citizens while the US govt doesnt.

I think to call out propaganda, and show what goes well in China. And to show people Chinese made media like C-Dramas

Not a lot on a large scale, our news publications will always demonize the enemies of the state.

But, you can talk to the people around you and try to convince them that China’s not at all what Western propagandists tell us about. Some people will be receptive, but others will cut contact with you for so much as implying that China isn’t an evil dictatorship that steals organs and imprisons Muslims.

So play it by ear, if it seems like a person might listen about certain things, they might be convincible. But the people who’ll argue and fight with everything you say (or even just start to say) are not going to come around on anything, so conserve your energy with those sort. Your mental health will thank you.

This advice stretches to anything else we’re propagandized about. Most people will prefer to believe what’s widely available to them, simply because that’s what we’re supposed to conform with. But some will be willing to learn more.