Welcome to 2013, Apple fans! Maybe in 5 more years you’ll get
homescreen widgetscustomizable layouts (change number of apps per row etc). In 10 you might get custom launchers!Welcome to 2013, Apple fans! Maybe in 5 more years you’ll get home screen widgets.
We actually do have home screen widgets, as of like 2020. They got it sometime before I had my iPhone. And an app drawer!
As a former Android user, my iPhone home screen looks wildly different from people who’ve had iPhones for many years. I have very few icons on my home screen, I have widgets taking up most of the top of the screen to push the icons I do have down near my fingers (because Springboard is still stupid as of iOS 17, as this gif is pointing out), I have more widgets to the left (“Today View,” Apple calls this, it’s basically just a scrolling widget section), and then the app drawer equivalent to the right (which Apple calls “App Library”). It’s clean and beautiful and reminiscent of my lovely Nova launcher setup I had on my beloved OnePlus 7T Pro (may it rest in peace).
Whereas most longtime iPhone users just have page after page after page of apps and folders. Every app they own is on there somewhere. Which is ridiculous since on iOS you can just swipe down, type the first few letters of the app, and there it is.
Before the app library existed you just had to have all the apps on a page and could not hide them. I ended up having like 20 page of apps. I eventually cleaned things up and have a page with apps I use, another page of widgets I use, and that’s it. But it took me years before I thought to do that.
Oh I know, it was madness. I briefly had a used iPhone 3GS and then was pure Android until 2022 when I got an iPhone. By the time I came back it was customizable enough that I could make it look like Android, but that’s work for someone who lived with the terrible setup it originally had. I don’t blame existing iPhone users, it’s just something I’ve noticed.
It’s funny, I’ve had an Android, a Nokia Windows Phone, and an iPhone, and Windows Phone was the only OS in which I didn’t open every single app through search. The utter lack of an app ecosystem definitely played a part, but I honestly don’t think either of the other two handle home screens/“app drawers” very well. Every modern social media platform/messenger/etc. is built around vertical continuous scrolling because it’s easier. Why is horizontal, paginated scrolling the default for home screens?
That’s a good point. Now that you mention it, I would much rather my Home Screen scroll down and I can add as many apps and widgets as I want.
The current iPhone page feels a bit claustrophobic now. Thanks.
I remember having this feature on my jailbroken iPhone in like 2009. Wild that it took this long.
iOS already has widgets?
2013? Pretty sure you could do this on Android waaaay before that.
My first Android was an HTC Hero, which was released in ~ October of 2009.
One of the first things I did was swap the location of the Maps and Store icons to make it easier to reach on the edge of the phone.
I recall people complaining that same year that the iPhone 1 couldn’t copy or paste text.
:)
I’m not sure about iPhones, but iPads have had homescreen widgets for a whole year, maybe even two!
Shit - my first Android phone had widgets, customizable homescreen (not just icons - but the entire layout an launcher), and anything else custom you wanted back in 2009.
15 years late to the game in an industry that’s effectively 17 years old…
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Bro, you can’t be for real, can you? Apple fans have been shitting on Android non-stop since it was created.
Oh, so “Glad you guys are finally getting features we had over a decade ago” is “full hatred”, but “I’m sorry, did you just send me a green text? didn’t know you were broke” is fine?
This is an April Fools, right?
No way a fancy top end smartphone in 2024 doesn’t have this extremely basic feature from over a decade ago that everything has…
iPhone just feels so unintuitive after using Android. Their UI absolutely sucks in my opinion.
Try Mac OS next lol. “Here, hold down alt, smack your left ass cheek, and tap dance around your computer to run this unsigned executable”. It really feels like they’re deliberately violating the principle of discoverability to stop your from doing things that they don’t like.
They already just prevent you from doing things that they don’t like.
Try installing an older app, it just gives the error that the app is too old.
That’s ageist. We should sue them.
Technically, Android does that, too, but the limit on that is a few years. If I’m not mistaken, the lowest version of Android that Google will allow a user to install through the Play Store is Android 12 (released in September 2020).
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That’s for manually installing apps, I believe. But developers on Google Play have to follow this.
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After 3 years of using MacOS as a main OS, I am more than convinced it was indeed the intention.
You can’t even cut/paste in Mac OS without using your mouse and modifier keys. Like, seriously? Also, it’s 2024 and they still don’t have window snapping. Like what the fuck, Tim Apple?
You can tho? You can use arrow keys to move around the text, and hold down control to move by entire words in most apps. CMD + C to copy and CMD + V to paste (CMD is what they call the super key). But yeah, they’re trying to push a pointer-centric design that nobody really wants instead of putting the keyboard first.
That’s copy/paste. There is no cut command in Mac AFAIK. There’s only the move command, which requires an additional modifier when pasting. If there’s a key combo for that modifier, then I would like to know what it is. The only way I know how to do it is with the context menu from right clicking and the modifier key. But still, why do they do it differently than every other operating system?
Because they are smarter than you, and know what you need better than you do, duh!
Cut is just Command + X. You can swap in Command for most of the windows shortcuts that use control. Why didn’t Apple just use the Control button for Control things? That I do not know.
You could also just right click though /shrug
I’m a Windows user, but my church uses a Mac to run its projection and video recording. I’ll admit it works pretty well for what we typically need it to do, but it recently took me like five minutes to figure out how to crop a picture because you apparently can’t do that by simply opening the file and clicking the crop icon.
Mac’s filesystem is an absolute mess, too. This might just be my own inexperience, but I’ve saved things like PowerPoints and videos in order to upload them, and then I’ll go to the website to upload them, and I won’t be able to find them because they’re not in a specific folder or something.
I picked up an iPhone several years ago, I think a 6 or 6s? Anyways, I tried to use it for a while, because I work in IT and sometimes need to support people on their iPhone, and being an Android person, I had no idea what I was doing.
I could not stand it. Everything took so much more effort. I never got rid of my android, I just tried to use the iPhone whenever possible to familiarize myself with the apple way of doing things. I hated some of the layouts, I missed the back button… Even something as simple as copy/paste just seemed a lot more cumbersome for no good reason.
I learned a lot about it and where options and such were located (which is what I primarily needed) then I simply used it a bit less and less all the time until I finally stopped using it entirely. I have no idea where it is at this point, but I’m sure it still works and I’m sure I would still hate it. I’ve wanted to retry the experiment with a newer device like the X or 11 or something, but anytime I consider it, I just think back on my experience and unless I can pick up a relatively modern iPhone for next to nothing, I’m pretty uninterested in trying again. I know iOS has had a lot of updates in the past few years since I used one and maybe it sucks less? But I’m not willing to sacrifice my sanity to figure it out.
I don’t mean to hate on iOS or iPhones. I certainly don’t like them, but if that’s what works for you, then go ham. I find it cumbersome and restrictive, and you’re free to disagree and use whatever you like; don’t let me stop you.
Right? I gotta use an iPad at work now and where the FUCK is the back button!?!? I’m so tired of mashing the home button. It’s cool AF that my stylus will put text specifically where I write it though, and it translates my cursive!
Ahh Apple, the first to introduce what Android users have simply taken for granted
You would think that. But as a person having an iPhone… No it is not. At least the part of iPhones currently not having that option. App-Icons on your “desktop” will always align in dense rows from top left to bottom right, with no free spaces allowed.
It is a bit weird, and I don’t really see why, since you can change the order of icons in this dense row-grid. I am glad Apple warms up to the fact that people might actually want some kind of customization on their devices and not everything “the way Apple decrees it”.
But to be really honest… I did not even notice prior to this post, and I had all Android before switching to my current iPhone. So at least for me this is a really small non-issue, and maybe a nice-to-have feature.
I was going to mention this. You can move them around; but you can’t move them anywhere you want. The icons will always be, as you say, in a dense grid of rows with no “blank” spaces between the icons.
I don’t know if the OP is true or satire or some kind of April fools thing, but it’s still accurate.
It’s Apple, their entire business model is making their tech as restrictive as possible and stripping away as much freedom as they legally can. You can’t name a company more power-hungry.
Its Apple. Control first, everything else third.
I had an iPhone before this Android I have now, and you could definitely put icons wherever you wanted on the home screen.
This is what my homescreen looks like and apple’s struggling with placement of icons?
Edit: for those asking for theme, below is the video with instructions and apps used. https://youtu.be/UQKIUycDfQg Can’t guarantee if it’ll work for you.
unixporn material.
that is 🔥 ! how though?
Total launcher. Had to design whole thing though. The theme is based on nier: automata game ui.
I immediately recognised the game UI - well done!
Plz share!
Holy fuck why is that so beautiful. You’ve unlocked something in me I didn’t know was there and must pursue now.
What sort of gameboy is this?
You’ve taken “home screen as self expression” to a new level
level 70and I am here for it.Beautiful homescreen from a beautiful place
Ahhhh config please…
It’s not klwp. I made it in total launcher.
Is there some form of backup thing to export config?
Gimmi those viruses!
Yeah because oc is going to find some exploit from the config file, inject it to the backup and then send it to some random guy on internet
If you look at his instructions, he says “Take general internet safety precautions and don’t open zip files from strangers without checking.”. I was making a joke that IDC and I want the theme. I can see why that didn’t really come through if you didn’t actually click his link, given the short nature of my reply.
Ah gotcha. I tought I missed something😂
You forgot me…
Sauce?
nice rice bro
I rarely comment but had to stop here to say, nice home screen.
lovely homescreen. thanks for sharing!
This looks cool, what are you using?
Total launcher.
Thx for the info
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Yeah boiii! Look what I’ve got going on! These aren’t just squares. They’re cubes that rotate!! It’s like the compiz dream in my hand!
I used to work with an Apple fanboy that knew next to nothing about how computers actually work, but he knew that Apple was the best at everything. Any time someone brought up something about a device or service from any other company or with any other OS, his stock answer was always “switch to Apple”. Any time someone pointed out that their device offered a feature or functionality they appreciated that Apple did not offer in a convenient way, his stock answer was always “You don’t need that.” Sometimes he’d add “why would you want to do that? Do X instead”.
Fast forward to today, I ended up killing him and am writing this from jail.
This is really my problem with Apple.
They make great hardware, and they make great software…but their answer to an XY problem is always W. You do things their way, or you don’t do them.
And what they are really best at is marketing and simplicity. They market their simplicity. That attracts a lot of people who don’t care to know any way of doing things other than the Apple way. Even if another way is objectively better in any or every way.
Good for you, man. Get yo life.
#relatable
Fast forward to today, I ended up killing him and am writing this from jail.
Okay, important question here: are you writing this on Android or iPhone?
Fast forward to today, I ended up killing him and am writing this from jail.
That went from 0 to 100 real fast.
They make great computers if you are into music production or photo/video editing.
Actually their computers are better than windows 11 at this point…
Their phones, on the other hand, should all be thrown into a volcano.
Windows 11 is not a computer
This is true. It’s an operating system that runs on a computer.
Computers can be good or bad depending on the hardware they use.
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RIP in peace Windows Phone 10. Still the best home screen setup ever.
Say what you will about Microsoft, lemmys, but Windows Phone 10 had great performance and battery life. It’s a shame that it was nuked because MS couldn’t bring themselves to go all the way on the Android bridge.
I’m a mobile developer and back around 2011 I was hoping like hell that Windows Phone would make it big. When you look at Xcode (for iOS), Eclipse (for Android and Blackberry) and MS Visual Studio (for Windows Mobile and Windows Phone) for mobile development, there was absolutely no comparison - it was Visual Studio all the fucking way. But Microsoft just decided to completely shit the bed and give up on mobile altogether. I still don’t get it.
Around that time WebOS (under Palm) had the Mojo SDK, it was pretty slick.
I’ve heard nothing but good things about WebOS but I never got the chance to try it out.
I loved it, it’s a shame that phone failed to find it’s market. Luckily Matias Duarte eventually incorporated the best parts into android. Swipe navigation is almost identical to webos
They also messed up Nokia before killing Windows Phone. Nokia’s Symbian used to be a serious competition to android.
Symbian was a fantastic OS, but it never competed with Android in any meaningful way. Nokia was already circling the drain when Microsoft bought them and first Windows phones (Lumias) were fucking awesome. And then fucking moron Nadella killed Windows Phone.
The Windows Lumina phone was a battery-draining buggy version with a smaller screen than the Linux version N9, When they turned that into Windows (Lumina 800), they had to use a smaller screen and less memory as Windows couldn’t handle the hardware as MeeGo could.
N9 was perfect in every way except that it was abandoned. I miss that phone every day I use Android
Yet, that is the real Linux phone killer move by the former, Microsoft CEO for Nokia. Also the move that killed Nokia phones.
When Microsoft bought Nokia, Steve Balmer (ex-Microsoft) was at Nokia helm. His work with Nokia was so much in the interest of Microsoft that he was rewarded with head chair of Microsoft not much time later.
You mean Elop? Ballmer was MS CEO when MS bought Nokia, but they were doing fairly well in the beginning. Fucking moron Nadella took over and killed Windows mobile. Despite publically admitting later that it was a mistake, he’s still a fucking moron.
And MeeGo as well, which was a more modern base and even better UX than Windows Mobile in my opinion.
Nokia’s Symbian was shit and you’re the only person I’ve ever heard saying anything positive about it. To be a serious competitor to Android or IOS you need to have as much apps on the store and Symbian had very few.
I am saying that it was probably sabotaged by Microsoft leaning leadership at Nokia.
Also, despite being Linux core, Android itself was shit in the beginning. Gingerbread (G) was the first edition that won favour with buyers. Hardly any takers of android for its first six versions (A to F). Not even the techy nerds were buying Eclairs.
Around 20 years ago, iOS used to outclass everything by a big margin. Android, Nokia/Symbian, RIM, etc were closer to each other than to Apple. And now …
As of 2024, fresh competition to android is needed.
Honestly windows phone was sabotaged by both 3rd party developers who refused to port their apps to the platform, despite how easy it became AND did things like kill their own APIs to stop other developers from developing ports themselves, as well as by Google by not allowing their services on the platform.
The hardware was honestly top notch, even compared to my current S21 ultra. They were fairly pro consumer, having removable batteries, SD card slots and a 3.5mm jack right up until the end, even after the other big manufacturers removed them. And after the major update (the WP 8.1 update iirc) the software was really nice, intutive and pretty. I miss arranging and resising tiles, I miss having my pictures or album artworks showing up on the homescreen and I still use the Microsoft launcher on android to get the app drawer like I had on my WP.
Windows Phone was mostly sabotaged by first-party developers. Microsoft has a history of abandoning their mobile phone OSes after very short periods of time and nobody trusted them not to do it again. As a result few app developers bought into the ecosystem and smartphone enthusiasts told their friends not to get Windows phones, causing modest sales, causing Microsoft to immediately drop the platform.
As everyone expected them to.
What launcher are you using currently? I have Launcher 10 but I’m always looking for a new WP10 styled one to use
Yes, it was a shame, and it only died mainly due to the lack of available apps in the store and bad management. MS took too long to release it with Android and iOS already well established in the market… It was also the OS that resisted the longest in the Pwn2Own Hacking Contest in these years. While Android and iOS went down in less than a minute, before the hackers could access the data, on WindowsPhone they hit their teeth on a rock, after half an hour they could only access the cookies.
You can still get it with android launchers. Was toying with them the other day. Launcher 10 I believe is pretty close.
I actually use Launcher 10. I love it minus the weird glitch where the letter selector from the all apps list occasionally not working. Best Android Launcher around
I was always shocked how smooth windows phone was. This system had potential but well.
There’s a few android launchers that emulate the metro ui. I use the Square Home one and I have no complaints.
I’ve got Launcher 10. It’s my favorite of the WP10 likes I’ve seen and used. And I’ve used a ton lol
If I try it out and don’t like it, will my Nova Launcher screen go back to how it is now, or will I need to set it all up again?
If you dive into Nova’s settings, you should be able to make a backup of your setup. Should just be able to restore your backup. That said, I don’t use Nova much to confirm but that should be how it works
Edit: Dur I’m dumb. If you don’t uninstall Nova, you can just swap between launchers because they’re just apps. No backup needed as long as Nova doesn’t get uninstalled
Awesome! Thank you!
Looks pretty clean, and with a proper search in the app drawer. If I wasn’t so lazy and set in my ways, I’d switch :)
Sorry about making a repeat post earlier, I hadn’t seen the other posts that suggested using launchers. I think my sync might be a bit slow with syncing posts.
You can use launcher10 or any other launcher that looks like windows phone home screen.
That’s the launcher I use. It’s the best available from what I can find
Different people have different tastes. I use Trebuchet 8. But person I replied to was asking about Windown Phone experience on android.
What is Trebuchet 8? I didn’t see it in the play store for my Galaxy Flip 4.
Best I can find is it’s pre coupled with lineage is and you can extract it from the OS or some such but beyond that I’m lost
I don’t remember where I found it, but it is LineageOS’ launcher
Believe it or not: Straight to jailbreak.
There is a tweak, which I don’t recall even having on Android, that lets you select tons of apps and move them around, you know, like you could in a desktop environment… I wonder how much time will take to have that.
(Probably some 3rd party launchers or Android skins allow this, but I can’t do it with Pixel Launcher).
I haven’t seen that in an Android launcher, but there’s nothing stopping it from being implemented. I’ve even seen Windows Mobile inspired launchers with similar widgets and menus on Android
Xiaomi had that last I tried it years ago
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Apple fan boi here.
I also love to shit on Apple.
Some of the big reveals are so dumb. They just give things a different name to blow your mind.
“Omg! They invited spatial computing!!!”
It’s not dumb because it works, doesn’t it? Even haters spread the news.
Well this is good news. I never owned an Apple product until my recent purchase of an iPad Mini.
I was nervous about switching from an Android tablet, but everything went great until I tried to move my home screen icons where I wanted them, and resize a weather widget the way I wanted it. Neither worked, and I had to laugh at how ridiculous it was.
I’m very much looking forward to version 18 now.
I’m not sure I understand what we’re talking about. When you install an app on iOS, the icon pops onto the home screen or an adjacent page if there’s no room. Can you not move the icons after that? I know you can put them in folders.
I guess that when you come from a land of tweaking things to juuust the way you like it, any hindrance to this would be annoying
At least on my iPhone (no idea if iPads are different) you can reorder, but the icons will always be “dense” meaning no free spaces between them. They will always align in full rows beginning from top left. You can put stuff in folders, and you can change the order, but not have one icon in the third row, without the first and second row being fully populated with icons.
I had no idea! I guess it’s a minor thing, but that would annoy me. Thank you for explaining.
Are they letting you guys keep your screens on yet? Or is that something that’s being saved for 19? Probably not a big deal for most, but an always on display for time, calendar, and alerts without having to do anything to active my phone is clutch for me. When I see other peoples phones with blank black screens they look so dead.
They have actually introduced AOD, but only from the iPhone 15.
Their reasoning for not backporting the feature (unless phone is charging) is that the older models don’t have LTPO displays that go down to the 1hz they do in AOD on the 15. A stupid reason imo.
Huh? Always on display has been around in iOS for years. Since 2022 with the 14.
That’s like…one, maybe two years
As compared with Android, which is like…decades
Ah! You’re right, they had it on the 14 Pro and Pro Max. That isn’t years though, its barely 1.5 years. (September '22)
It was just not on the normal non-pro models. iPhone 15 non-pro got it though.
It’s been around since 2022. Though I actually turned mine mostly off besides the clock because it’s just unnecessary and distracting the majority of the time. And super unhealthy.
Wouldn’t this drain your battery and cause burn-in on your screen?
Minimal / worth it / non impactful assuming you charge nightly anyway and no.
I love how concise your answer is
It does take more battery than just a blank screen, but it is kept extremely dim and automatically changes placement on the screen every so often so it doesn’t burn in. Also, if it doesn’t detect light (like if it were in your pocket) it turns off. I havent done the math, but i think playing a game on your phone for like 30 minutes would probably drain the battery a similar amount to a whole day if this display
Fucking weird comment
Just use the little arrows next time mate.
Fucking weird comment
im stealing this for the next rational and highly upvoted comment i see
Me on Linux changing the look of notification area with CSS stylesheet after installing an icon pack that works not only on app launcher but in most of the system.
PS Don’t forget to install this Magisk module that hacks Google checks so you can still log-in to your bank after you changed animations style via that other Magisk module.
Well damn, guess I’ll switch over now.
That was the last thing holding you back? No criticism, just genuinely curious.
I am extremely confident it was joke
In retrospect, you’re definitely right lol
As an iPhone removed, I still found it funny hahaha
…I thought we all just stopped having apps the Home Screen when we could put them in the library and unclutter everything.
Yeah I have almost no apps on my Home Screen. Just one page of widgets, and 3 pinned to the bottom.
Otherwise if I want an app I just use spotlight. Quick swipe down and the first letter or 2 of any app and I’m in. I almost never touch the App Library.
This prob comes from using spotlight so much on Mac as well though.
I hadn’t considered the connection, but now that you mention it I use Spotlight pretty much exclusively on my Mac too. Hopefully they don’t mess that feature up in the future or I’m going to have to learn how to manually organize things.
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lol yeah I literally use Spotlight for everything, it’s way faster the majority of the time.
You’ve just moved the same problem somewhere else if you do that.
I run a “main” home screen with Clock, Calendar, Weather and Alerts, then the next one is apps I commonly use, separated into folders, tools, photography, entertainment, comms, MFA, and then the next screen is my email.
Eh, the default organization they put on the App Library doesn’t offend me. I did add a widget for Reminders and another for Music though.
To be fair, as both an iOS and Android user, the way android moves icons around drives me crazy , I much prefer the iOS “shift everything down” approach
Isn’t that launcher dependent?
Not sure, I have a Pixel and use the stock everything
Glad I’m on iPhone where I don’t have to worry about “launchers” and everything works out of the box.
Androids work out of the box too. The point is if you don’t like the way it works you can find alternatives. If you like stock iPhone that’s fine but I find it claustrophobic.
Ignorance. The mark of a true apple cult follower.
Happy because no choice. Android works pretty well with default one but lauchers helps to overthrow what oem gives
You’re talking to a bunch of geeks. There’s nothing wrong with the default pixel launcher. I used it for years. Most of these people have a butt ugly home screen and all kinds of ridiculous customizations that no one else has time for.
I cannot refute any of this.
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Well… There’s yer problem
Ugh, I would not even use Android if I could not root…
That’s my favorite too but every since they were sold* I’m hesitant to recommend them. I’m too accustomed to swiping up/down on icons for shortcuts.
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So you just run the older version?
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I see what you mean, and this could be easily fixable with a toggle.
As an exclusively Android user, I couldn’t agree more
Get a new launcher in your life!
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I don’t get it, I’m on iOS 17 and can move them around? I came from a pixel and I was surprised that you could. And you can also stack widgets which is nice
The gap/spaced rows are impossible with current technology
They researched it for 3 years
You are greatly underestimate their efforts. They researched it for 30 years by 30 thousands economists.
Sounds like it must be some advanced alien tech but I think I’ll be alright without it
Can you leave a space in between two icons though
