• olgas_husband
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    chris kyle: also lied about killing poor people victims of natural disasters in his own country.

    chinese sniper that i forgot the name: haunted the enemy commanding office after dying, to the point he ordered his troops to recover the body to give a proper burial.

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    If only all of us could be even a quarter as based as Zhang Taofang in today’s age…

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    I know this is just a meme, but no one would say Chris Kyle is the best US sniper. He was a sniper, but having a movie made about you doesn’t make you the best.

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      Pretty sure that’s the American’s version of canonization of saints though.

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    You can’t talk about snipers without mentioning the GOAT, Simo Hayha. 505 kills in 98 days.

    Side note, Chris Kyle was a known lying sack of shit. I wonder how much of his record is fabricated.

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      Ah, Simo Häyhä. The Ghost of Kyiv of snipers, and that is not a compliment.

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        Interesting take. Finland was a democracy with universal suffrage. The red army was conducting an unprovoked invasion because finland refused to just cede land to Russia.

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          It was a land swap to which Finland would have come out ahead. They would have received more land of equal value in the trade in the Karelia region.

          The point of the swap was to move Finland’s borders further from Leningrad, which was close enough to Finland that they could shell it from their side. The USSR was ultimately proven right as Finland joined with the Nazis in invading the USSR after Barbarossa.

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          bourgeois dictatorship

          democracy with universal suffrage

          What lack of knowledge on marxist concepts and terminology does to a mfer

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            That makes zero difference. They were still demanding land from another state under threat of invasion.

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              That’s an enormous difference. “I’m going to take your house and you can pound sand” is much more objectionable than “I would like your house and will offer you fair compensation, which can implicitly be negotiated.”

              Note that the latter is what governments around the world do with eminent domain, and only right-wing cranks think that’s a fighting matter.

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                I can’t speak for the world, but often in the US, imminent domain is often used to transfer land to wealthy corps at a fraction of the actual value with no negotiation. Other times, it’s used to destroy minority communities. If you think that makes me a right-wing chud, I’m not sure what to say to you.

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                  imminent domain

                  When you definitely know what you’re talking about

                  Obviously I’m not talking about the clearly objectionable misuses of eminent domain. If I say only chuds have a problem with seatbelt laws you wouldn’t start talking about how cops misuse seatbelt laws to pull over black people at a higher rate than white people; all laws can be abused. The point is that the concept behind the law is not some crazy government overreach.

                  Getting back to the discussion, a land swap is not something so objectionable that your country has an excuse to go running to the Nazis for help. Especially when the threat of the Nazis is the reason for the land swap in the first place.

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        I’ll concede those numbers are probably higher than reality. As your link states, most kills by most snipers are largely unknown.

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      I’ve heard similar about Chris Kyle before but have only seen his movie and know nothing else about him. What has he said that people know is lying?

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        The big one, which is also grotesque and racist, was about shooting civilians after Katrina. He’s also been called out by other special forces guys for lying about missions and other interactions he’s had in his private life. Most notably, Jesse Ventura, though he’s a piece of shit as well. The guy was a decent shot, but a terrible person and habitual liar.

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      The problem with Hayha is the lack of evidence for most of his kills.