From what I’ve heard is that:

  1. Azov and other Ukro-nazi groups having been mostly in the immediate front lines since 2014.
  2. 250k+ Ukrainian soldiers are now wounded or dead.

I’m also noticing far less pictures/videos of Ukro nazis coming from the semi-pro Russian sources.

I’m beginning to wonder whether the current situation is that the ultra-nationalists are now dead and the current and larger Ukrainian force that’s currently fighting consist of non-nationalists that are US worshippers wannabe EU citizens.
And that those Ukrainians are constantly begging Zelensky for weapons coming from the EU or US or they won’t fight.

[update]

I would like to add that I got the impression of “Azov on the frontlines in Donbass” from listening to the Duran, Gonzalo Lira and others.
They used to talk a lot about them and now it seems to be solely about artillery weapons, further sanctions and advances on the battlefield.

I remember being shown a video clip where Zelensky was talking to his soldiers prior to the war in the Donbass to return home and they just flat out ignored their president’s orders.

There was also a clip of an Azov nazi talking about how his phone list how half of it had become a list of dead friends. And this happened months ago in I think Mariupol.

I think I read or heard it again a few weeks ago from another Azov nazi in around the Sverodonetsk area and it was even worse, 80% is how I remember it.

  • RedSquid
    22·
    2 years ago

    Every now and then on telegram there are photos of pows covered in tattoos or swastikas, photorealistic images of Hitler, alongside Ukrainian nationalist symbols like the trizub. So they are definitely still around. As others have said, the Azov battalion (now regiment, they’re an official part of the AFU) are only one such organization, many others exist and even outside of those explicitly fascist paramilitary orgs, there are plenty of ‘regular’ AFU soldiers who are avowed fascists or at the very least Banderites.

    On top of that, the government itself is still explicitly fond of Bandera and other historical monsters like him, they are still acting with genocidal intent towards the population of the south and east of the Ukraine, they still promote the idea of Russians as sub-human “orcs”.

    Lastly there is a really sharp and… tbh I think maybe irreperable divide now between the western, nationalist Ukrainians who have been poisoned by fascist indoctrination from emigrés returning since the 90s and the eastern, pro-Russian, or Soviet-nostalgic Ukrainians on the other. It would take generations at this point to reconcile, and frankly, if the nationalists are going to keep upholding Nazi collaborators and perpetrators of the holocaust, I don’t think reconciliation is even worthwhile. But hey, they’ll fit right in with the fascist and colonial apologia of the west now :P

  • Shrike502
    20·
    2 years ago

    It should be noted that Azov is but one of many Nazi batallions. There are also some armeed groups that may not be listed as “official military”, i.e. the Right Sector.

    Otherwise, no the operation is far from done. There are still forces shelling Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and hydroelectric dam. There are still forces shelling Donetsk and even Russian territory proper - i.e. Belgorod oblast.

    Now how many are left and how ling it will last is a good question. Looking back at Chechnya, there were sporadic flame-ups of conflict and armed assaults by paramilitaries for several years after the second campaign was officially over. For example there was an attack on Nalchik around 2007. Thus even after the campaign is officially over, it would only take a couple of squads of these psychos to start hostilities all over again.

    And lastly, please refrain from referring to Azovites as “warriors”. Such a term carries certain connotations and is used by western media on purpose. They are paramilitaries, Nazis, bandits. And some, I assume, are official armed forces personell.

    • folahtOP
      4·
      2 years ago

      And lastly, please refrain from referring to Azovites as “warriors”. Such a term carries certain connotations and is used by western media on purpose.

      Uhmm… have western media used that?
      I thought this came from myself thinking of not wanting to go too negative, but certainly not positive either, so going for the Klingon/barbarian route.

      • Shrike502
        9·
        2 years ago

        Yes. Especially sites like reddit. “BRAVE WARRIORS DEFENDING THEIR HOMELAND AGAINST EVIL ORCISH HORDES” is the obvious connotation.

        • folahtOP
          4·
          2 years ago

          Yikes! I’ll stop using it then from now on.

  • Lenins2ndCat
    4·
    2 years ago

    My understanding is that the majority of fighters are now conscripts, that the nato trained forces (nazis) are all pretty much dead. I’m sure some survivors are distributed throughout but 90% are dead or captured.

    I still think the entire Special Tasks Patrol Police needs dismantling, this organisation was created in the image of the SS as an expansion of Azov by fascists the fascists that took over the Ministry of Internal Affairs after the coup.

    • CriticalResist8A
      24·
      2 years ago

      He’s defending because:

      • otherwise the nazis in Ukraine would kill him
      • he was drafted under penalty of death
      • he was given a weapon and that lets him do whatever he wants

      Ukraine lost a fourth of their population to emigration in 20 years lmao you really think they wanna stay there if they didn’t have to?

        • CriticalResist8A
          23·
          2 years ago

          Nobody here said that Russia had killed all the nazis in Ukraine 🤨

          Then you agree Ukrainians are being drafted against their will but keep insisting that they want to pick up weapons. Did the civilians at Mariupol has a choice in the matter, when Azov was using them as human shields?

          If they all wanted to defend their country then why are so many in my neighbourhood right now (which I assure you is not in Ukraine)? You speak of self evident conclusions that MLs are too terminally online to even think of but then cannot entertain any other idea than this one.

          • folahtOP
            5·
            2 years ago

            Nobody here said that Russia had killed all the nazis in Ukraine 🤨

            Well…if he says I said it, I was kind of implying that, although with a “Where have they been?” question mark.

            If they all wanted to defend their country then why are so many in my neighbourhood right now

            Must be the same neighbourhood.
            I saw four of them walking around today by just looking outside.

            • CriticalResist8A
              15·
              2 years ago

              Oh, he was replying to me saying nazis in Ukraine kill anyone who doesn’t serve in the war.

              Zelensky is clearly not in power, he’s obeying a higher authority which I believe to be NATO on one side, fascists on the other. We are talking about the country that kept putting up Bandera statues even after Zelensky, who is Jewish (and libs love reminding you of that fact), was elected.