• loathesome dongeaterA
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    6 months ago

    Crazy how there are Israeli planes flying by followed by unrelated explosion after which coincidentally Palestinians end up lifeless. Crazy how that happens.

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      6 months ago

      Oh, okay, so you think that Israel is bombing Gazans. However, if they wanted to do this, first the bomb would have to fall half the distance to the ground. However, if we treat that as the new starting point, then the bomb then has to fall half the distance to the ground again. Repeat this until infinity and it’s pretty obvious that it would take infinite steps for the bomb to hit the ground, and thus it is impossible for Israel to be bombing Gazans.

      • D61 [any]@hexbear.net
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        6 months ago

        bu…bu…but the planes dropped the bombs/fired the missiles while in Israeli airspace so TeChNiCaLlY… pepe-silvia

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    6 months ago

    The wildest thing about libs is that they love the novel 1984, and love to project this idea onto the USSR, China, and North Korea. It’s wild to me because of the emphasis on information control, censorship, propaganda, etc. that they love to go on about regarding AES countries, but then they do the same thing without a single iota of self-awareness.

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      6 months ago

      All George Orwell knew was British society and he just assumed that communism would be a worse version of that without ever looking at how the USSR actually functioned.

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      6 months ago

      No… just no… you’re on the right path but this essay is much more better explanation for why libs live as they do…

      People aren’t “falling” for atrocity propaganda; they’re eagerly seeking it out, like a soothing balm.

      The prevailing populist narrative grants the People (of the West) moral innocence by attributing to them utter stupidity and naivety; I invert the equation and demand a Marxist narrative instead: Westerners are willingly complicit in crimes because they instinctively and correctly understand that they benefit as a class (as a global bourgeois proletariat) from the exploitation enabled by their military and their propaganda (in Gramscian: organs of coercion and consent). [6] We’re not as stupid as we’re made out to be. This means that we can be reasoned with, that there is a way out.

      I believe that, on the contrary, the process of Western propaganda is better understood in terms of “licensing”: the issuing of moral license for the bourgeois proletariat to profitably go along with bourgeois designs without the feeling of shame overwhelming. In this alternative account people aren’t “brainwashed” insofar as they don’t actually believe the lies, not in the way that we generally understand belief. It’s more correct to say that they go along with them, whether enthusiastically or apprehensively, because it’s actually their optimal survival strategy.

      Source: Masses, Elites, and Rebels by Roderic Day, Red Sails

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    6 months ago

    That second one looked so much like satire that I had to check, and it’s real.