It’s so stupid I wonder if they’re not lying.

After the October loss, the Joint Chiefs began an overhaul and shifted toward a new concept they call “Expanded Maneuver.” Hyten wants the U.S. military to be ready to fight under this overhauled Joint Warfighting Concept by 2030, using many of today’s weapons, aircraft, and ships.

Earlier this month, Hyten released four directives to the services: one each for contested logistics; joint fires; Joint All-Domain Command and Control, or JADC2; and information advantage. On Monday, he revealed new details about these “functional battles.”

Contested logistics. Creating new ways to deliver fuel and supplies to front lines. U.S. Transportation Command and the Air Force are working on using rockets and a space trajectory to get large cargo spaceships into and out of battlefields.

So basicaly they want to have supply delivered to the frontline by reusable rockets. From the weight issues typical with space flight to how hard and expencive to produce even one of these, any amateur space geek can see why this is stupid. I guess the envisioned rocket for the job is the spaceship of Space x? Did the fucking pentagon drink the Musk coolaid?

Joint fires: “You have to aggregate to mass fires, but it doesn’t have to be a physical aggregation,” Hyten said. “It could be a virtual aggregation for multiple domains; acting at the same time under a single command structure allows the fires to come in on anybody. It allows you to disaggregate to survive.” Hyten said the joint fires concept “is aspirational. It is unbelievably difficult to do.” And the military will have to figure out what part will be affordable and practical, he said.

So basicaly, they are sitting ducks to next gen artillery when they park a bunch of ships together a few kms from the coast to strike the land at a distance like they have been doing for decade and their solution to that is to stop parking a bunch of ships together. I like how this one is just « If lose when group then no lose when no group » but they talk about it like it’s an amaizing idea and then admit they have no concrete plan how they would do it.

JADC2: The Pentagon’s push to connect everything demands always-on, hackerproof networks, Hyten said. “The goal is to be fully connected to a combat cloud that has all information that you can access at any time, anyplace,” so that, like with joint fires, the data doesn’t get exposed or hacked because it’s housed in one centralized location, he said.

So decentralizing data storage so that even if they get hacked the hackers won’t have access to everything and only a limited amount of data will fall to enemy hands. Make sense but. That sound… basic… No? I don’t know much about computer science or military strategy but that sound like something that a principled army would have put in place like 20 years ago. Am I crazy?

Information advantage: This element is the sum of the first three, Hyten said: “If we can do the things I just described, the United States and our allies will have an information advantage over anybody that we could possibly face.”

Ok, I need someone who know strategy to enlighten me here. What is bro yapping about? Appart from maybe the JADC2 thing I don’t see how any of that would give them an informational advantage. Am I wrong?

What do you think comrades?

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    The more I listen to the waffling from military top brass in the US, the more I wonder if they didn’t actually interview a military general, but accidentally interviewed some random redditor armchair general that plays HOI4 a lot.

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    Did the fucking pentagon drink the Musk coolaid?

    yes.

    this is not even close to the crazyiest shit tgey just bought even

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    Sounds like a project manager I worked with in tech who says lots of words that sound cool but when you press him on the details they boil down to “figuring out the details is someone else’s job”

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    Not your comrade, actually the opposite, coming from the feed recommendation, but:

    1. 1 Seems to be as lunatic as your tone suggests.

    2. 2 Seems to be OK, considering they have to change lots of procedures and retrain lots of people, this really is a big issue to be solved. An organizational one.

    3. 3 Utter self-contradictory bullshit. He also says that after the article saying that the “red team” has been able to interrupt communications, so some centralized cloud would be the exact thing they shouldn’t do.

    Conclusion: this general is of the same kind of people who were Theranos investors.

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      Even with #2, it’s kind of absurd that these guys are talking about finally adopting naval tactics that would’ve been familiar to Horatio Nelson. The idea is a reasonable one, what isn’t reasonable is how long it has apparently taken them to figure it out.

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    their solution to that is to stop parking a bunch of ships together. I like how this one is just « If lose when group then no lose when no group » but they talk about it like it’s an amaizing idea and then admit they have no concrete plan how they would do it.

    Even entertaining the idea they will get shoot at is pretty revolutionary for US military strategists, so thinking what to do in such case is huge step forward for them.

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      The more learn about the US the more I realize the military they’re so proud of is kinda dogshit actually.

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    Hyten is a fucking tool that doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about. The kind of infrastructure and operational discipline and actual “strategy” (I use that term incredibly loosely) takes fucking years to build at fucking best, and even then, most of his claims are just laughable horseshit. He’s using lots of buzz phrases to justify the evil Amerikkkan Empire’s delusional frame of mind in regards to expansion and conflict.

    He simultaneously wants a centralized and decentralized cloud system, but that ignores that even if it works, the U.S. can’t do much when it’s second-hand warships are boondoggles compared to China’s practically 23rd century technological advances and innovation. What amount of “strategy” can you possibly do or keep secret when China has some of the most sophisticated firewall protection and firewall breaking technology on Earth, has some of the best missiles and missile protection technology, and extremely advanced drones and a shit ton of artillery and redundancy and even burgeoning A.I. systems and some of the best military discipline and organization?

    The U.S. is just showing it’s ass. I concur that if these articles were a ploy, that would make sense, but thankfully it seems the U.S. can’t stop China’s or socialism’s’ rise, and it’s only a matter of time until the Great Satan can be destroyed.

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    Have to wonder if all these stories about how “the military is fucking up” are just there to justify more funding (even though the military is actually fucking up).

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    Sounds like “we have unlimited funding and resources but that only gets us our current loser military, we need a new super military which will cost double.” I don’t know shit but it sure sounds like an scheme to dump even more money into the military.

    “Cut military funding? You don’t want to lose to the Chinese, do you?? Have you heard what they did to the Uighurs?” Infinite gas lighting from the ghouls printing money at the money printer, while we choke and die on microplastics patiently waiting outside the hospital we can’t afford