• RT Redréovič
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      The PRC should also severe all military, trade and diplomatic relations with Israel. This barely does anything.

        • Muad'DibberA
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          Brits are truly the scum of the earth. That doctoring went through an entire approval process where not a single person questioned it.

          • loathesome dongeaterA
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            Brits are truly the scum of the earth.

            You could have just left it at that

          • The Free Penguin
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            Funny, how only the International Community™ are the only ones who condemn China about Xinjiang while Muslim countries support China. If China were really genociding Muslims, wouldn’t Muslim countries care a bit more about what’s going on?

            • @REEEEvolution
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              Obviously China bought all those muslims! Brown people can not form their own opinions!11111

          • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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            I still don’t get it (forgive me for being dense)

            • US supports the genocide of Palestine
            • China supports the genocide of Uighurs

            Is this really not a case of the Pot calling the kettle black?

              • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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                I feel like I’m being baited into posting links, so I won’t - but on duckduckduckgo schreib “!w Xianjiang Int* ca*ps”

                Wikipedia tends to be a good source of information.

                • carl_marks_1312 [comrade/them]
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                  337 months ago

                  It’s not about baiting to post a link, it’s about not being able to prove a negative.You made an (outrageous) claim and you need to back it up with a source. (Most of us actually tried to find a credible source on this topic but couldn’t find one. It always boils down to a Zenz or ASPI or another defense Industry sponsored piece)

                • @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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                  Wikipedia is not a good source of information, didn’t they teach you that in grade school?

                  The entire platform was written more or less by one guy and the place is censored to shit after neoliberals captured the mod team.

                • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                  147 months ago

                  Wikipedia tends to be a good source of information.

                  It is a decidedly bad source of information on enemies of the State Department.

                  Also, just as an ESL thing, it looks like you slipped back into German there with “schreib” instead of “write” or “type”

            • @taiphlosion
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              Strange cause I don’t see any evidence of a genocide…kinda hard to hide in this day and age of technology. Or are you just repeating what the Western media says?

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                kinda hard to hide in this day and age of technology.

                This is the bit that confuses me. Before October people could say that they’ve weighed up the evidence and you can at least logically see how they get to ‘genocide’ based on the evidence they’ve deemed ‘credible’.

                But now? Now there’s a real genocide happening right in front of us. We’re seeing what a real genocide looks like, and we’re seeing how hard it is to hide. How the fuck are there people who still think there’s one happening in Xinjiang?

                I used to think that the one sliver of silver lining that was coming out of Palestine was that Western Governments and Private Media had destroyed their credibility by blatantly backing Israel and spinning the coverage. But nope. The West is hopeless with Sinophobia: either unaware of how bad they have it, or pretending they don’t.

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                  Unfortunately there are members of the Palestinian diaspora I know claiming that Xinjiang is part of the globalized war on Muslims. I’m choosing to not engage with them on this out of respect for the moment, but at some point its gonna need to be addressed how they are parroting propaganda from the very same mouthpieces that are manufacturing consent for their own genocide happening right now in front of us.

              • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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                Well yes, but also a colleague of mine is from there. He had to fight tooth and nail to get his family out and he told be often of the horrors faced by his people.

                I also dated a Beijing girl for a year and she was very much of the opinion that nothing was wrong, but she was incredibly dense about a lot of things to the point that I no lover trusted her opinion.

                • @taiphlosion
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                  If there’s a genocide going on you can actually provide numbers like population loss and displacement. It would be EXTREMELY HARD to cover all of this up. Look at Israel, where an actual genocide is taking place. You’re telling me that China is doing the same thing and not only does no one know about it but Muslim leaders that actually visited Xinjiang approved of China’s actions, all of those people are wrong? Sounds like your “colleague” is a liar.

                  I also dated a Beijing girl for a year and she was very much of the opinion that nothing was wrong, but she was incredibly dense about a lot of things to the point that I no lover trusted her opinion.

                  That’s cause nothing was wrong, and you’re a chauvinist. Why is her opinion any less valuable than your colleague’s? She fucking lives there dude

                • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                  I also dated a Beijing girl for a year and she was very much of the opinion that nothing was wrong, but she was incredibly dense about a lot of things to the point that I no lover trusted her opinion.

                  “I dated a girl from China who I don’t respect so the opposite of what she says must be true” is not the slam dunk argument you seem to think it is.

                • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                  67 months ago

                  Are you not parroting the Western party line? Idk, I think this is a situation of glass houses and stones wrt your criticism of your ex.

            • Muad'DibberA
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              Remember also that a big aspect of colonizer guilt, is accusing your enemies of that which you are guilty of (the west accusing China of being anti-muslim, accusing the USSR of anti-semitism, etc) This is why average USonians can’t accept the idea that other countries haven’t committed genocide, and are not as evil as theirs is, and default to a “all countries bad”.

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          Nope. Muslim countries are telling you that a genocide isn’t happening. So why do you believe Adrian Zenz (the source of these claims, a white supremacist christian evangelical), and the western countries who have been bombing Muslim countries for decades, and the US who is in the middle of a trade war with China?

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          It’s been like 4 years now, that shit’s been debunked (by the west, no less) through and through. They literally invented that narrative to distract from the fact they were funding fascists in the region, and it worked because the average american is basically an anticommunist nazi who has no problem accepting shit if it aligns with their internalized fascism, but asks for “Source???” to anyone with a different prospective.

          Hell, Fox news even bragged about how they were going to run a “Sinofication” narrative and people STILL bought it hook line and sinker.

          • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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            Colour me an anticommunist Nazi (my voting habits, open source contirbutions, and my second generation immigrant background would hint otherwise, but fine boil me down to a single instance on a single matter), I would love to see a source on this because it’s genuinely the first I’ve heard of it

            • @deathtoreddit
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              Uh, here, there’s a comprehensive response video to the claim of genocide in Xinjiang, just to balance it out… (eg. debunks the source of the 1 million imprisoned):

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGQeF62zdCc

              my second generation immigrant background would hint otherwise

              What, Slavic I suppose?

              • The Free Penguin
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                the reuploader of the vid is a patsoc who frequently reposts haz and maupin

                • @deathtoreddit
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                  67 months ago

                  What? So, by association, is BayArea415 a patsoc? Don’t remember that…

              • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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                Way off, but what does it matter at this point.

                YouTube link

                Wikipedia is out, but this guy is in. Is there no better source to the claim that the West themselves debunked their own claim of Chinese genocide? A more neutral source even? I’ll even take Chomsky as he has a good tendency to present facts and let the readers decide.