Russia said on Thursday that it planned to build close ties with North Korea in all areas, a day after South Korea, Japan and the United States condemned what they said were weapons supplies from Pyongyang to Moscow.
I’m not expecting much in the near future, but I think it’s sort of inevitable over the long run. China is going to have a huge amount of influence on Russia and it will necessarily affect how people view communism.
As “foreign stuff imposed on our holy land by the ebil slant-eyes”? Maybe, yeah. Don’t forget - there are people repeating the “Lenin was a German spy” bs even now
And who believes that, though? And “ebil slant-eyes” racism or not, the material conditions speak for themselves. The prosperity seen in China today is something that can and should appeal to anyone regardless of ideology, or even racism/etc.
It’s not just racism. “China will steal our Siberia” has been a boogeyman/talking point in Russia for as long as I remember - so probably even before the USSR collapse.
And you’re right. Material conditions matter. So what do the people see? They see China that is growing richer and more powerful with every passing day, while their own conditions worsen. Do you expect the reasoning to be “we should do what they do”, or will it be “they’re leeching off our wealth and grow fat off our blood”? You know, like Europe was doing for thirty years.
It honestly might just be due to racism (and other phobias). Far right parties are able to get people to vote against their own interests by centring “the other” as the issue rather than the system; the white working class (not all of them, of course) are ensnared in this trap, their racism used as an advantage. These parties use that racism to cloud the real problems and convince the white worker to blame non-white people as the origin of the economic disaster they are facing. It is not the system, but the people in the system. Other minorities (gender and sexuality) are used in this way as well. It is very hard to understand this view but it happens, some people will not come out of it until they see the problems persisting even after every minority is gone.
Ayup. Welcome to the madness. The gist of the idea is usually “Lenin was a German spy, sent to destabilise Russia, collapse it and make it lose the war”. That’s because multiple territories had seceded from the now former Russian Empire (i.e. Poland, Finland), and some territories were given up as part of the Brest-Litovsk treaty (look up the terms of it, if you ever get tired of hearing how Germany was “humiliated” by Versailles treaty).
I never heard of the Brest-Litovsk treaty (in school we only learned about the treaty of Versailles) and, my god, they paid the Germans 300 million??? And so much territory lost too…
We can only hope that close relationships with China, DPRK, Cuba, and Vietnam help Russia find its way back to the light.
I will forever be shameless in my need for a Soveit (re)Union
can’t wait for the Soviet Well Overdue Reunion
Operation Sword: Soviet Well Overdue Reunion Drive.
Same tbh
I wake up every day very saddened that it has not happened yet.
Don’t get your hopes up
I’m not expecting much in the near future, but I think it’s sort of inevitable over the long run. China is going to have a huge amount of influence on Russia and it will necessarily affect how people view communism.
As “foreign stuff imposed on our holy land by the ebil slant-eyes”? Maybe, yeah. Don’t forget - there are people repeating the “Lenin was a German spy” bs even now
And who believes that, though? And “ebil slant-eyes” racism or not, the material conditions speak for themselves. The prosperity seen in China today is something that can and should appeal to anyone regardless of ideology, or even racism/etc.
It’s not just racism. “China will steal our Siberia” has been a boogeyman/talking point in Russia for as long as I remember - so probably even before the USSR collapse.
And you’re right. Material conditions matter. So what do the people see? They see China that is growing richer and more powerful with every passing day, while their own conditions worsen. Do you expect the reasoning to be “we should do what they do”, or will it be “they’re leeching off our wealth and grow fat off our blood”? You know, like Europe was doing for thirty years.
It honestly might just be due to racism (and other phobias). Far right parties are able to get people to vote against their own interests by centring “the other” as the issue rather than the system; the white working class (not all of them, of course) are ensnared in this trap, their racism used as an advantage. These parties use that racism to cloud the real problems and convince the white worker to blame non-white people as the origin of the economic disaster they are facing. It is not the system, but the people in the system. Other minorities (gender and sexuality) are used in this way as well. It is very hard to understand this view but it happens, some people will not come out of it until they see the problems persisting even after every minority is gone.
…what? That’s a thing?
Ayup. Welcome to the madness. The gist of the idea is usually “Lenin was a German spy, sent to destabilise Russia, collapse it and make it lose the war”. That’s because multiple territories had seceded from the now former Russian Empire (i.e. Poland, Finland), and some territories were given up as part of the Brest-Litovsk treaty (look up the terms of it, if you ever get tired of hearing how Germany was “humiliated” by Versailles treaty).
I never heard of the Brest-Litovsk treaty (in school we only learned about the treaty of Versailles) and, my god, they paid the Germans 300 million??? And so much territory lost too…
USSR exported revolution, China exports reform, lol.
Ha