Ukraine sacks army recruitment chiefs in anti-graft shakeup
www.reuters.com
President Volodymyr Zelenskiy broadened his battle against graft on Friday, firing all the heads of Ukraine's regional army recruitment centres as the war with Russia enters a critical stage.
  • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.ca
    9531·
    1 year ago

    I knew from reading the headline that Hexbear’s horde of mouthbreathers would show up to brigade and spread their propaganda. Sure enough, here we are

    Edit: You guys really are just proving my point lmao

          • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
            47·
            1 year ago

            mean old tankies out

            Mask off already? Damn, that’s kind of against the rules

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              651·
              1 year ago

              What mask? I’m an ML and have never claimed otherwise on this account or its alts on any instance.

              And being an ML isn’t against the rules, so don’t bog down our dear admins with superfluous reports.

            • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              423·
              1 year ago

              “Tankies are bad.”

              Do you believe that that because you genuinely believe that capitalist nations like the United States and Russia are doing good things for the world, while “tankie” countries like Cuba and China are doing bad things for the world? Or do you believe that because you have been tricked by 100 years of racist propaganda that says socialists like Fidel Castro, Albert Einstein, and Martin Luther King were subhuman scum?

              • Gsus4@feddit.nl
                2·
                1 year ago

                Known capitalist evil practices do not absolve tankies of wanting to impose communism by force.

                You use the term “racist propaganda” interchangeably as anti-socialist propaganda…as if the only victims of capitalism were the victims of racism.

                Who calls MLK and Einstein scum? Maybe Fidel was called that by right-wingers during the Cold War. Why did you mix and match those 3? Why not Emma Goldman or Gorbachev, if you’re just naming random socialists (I’m not even sure MLK ever explicitly considered himself a socialist).

                • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  3·
                  1 year ago

                  I’m not even sure MLK ever explicitly considered himself a socialist.

                  Well then.

                  “I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

                  “Today, capitalism has out-lived its usefulness.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

                  “Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

                  “We must see now that the evils of racism, economic exploitation and militarism are all tied together.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

                  “The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

                  “If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty and make it possible for all of God’s children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to hell.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

                  (from https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/01/21/11-most-anti-capitalist-quotes-martin-luther-king-jr)

                  It says a lot about the education system wherever you come from that you never learned MLK was a socialist. He HATED capitalism! Hated it! Also, the scientist Albert Einstein was a prominent socialist who wrote a famous article, “Why socialism?” explaining in detail why he was a socialist. Einstein and MLK believed in the same anti-capitalist struggle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Socialism%3F

              • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
                47·
                1 year ago

                lmao How many times has that worked on anyone, honestly? Like I’m just gonna wake up one day and say, “yeah, you know what, my entire worldview has been shattered by @KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net whispering sweet commie propaganda in my ear”

                Idk why you are all on stuck on the tankie shit like it matters that much to me. Like I said previously, I don’t have a problem with the Christians for being Christian, but just like you tankies, the fandom is weird, intense and circlejerky af

                • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  38·
                  1 year ago

                  IDK man. You’re basically saying “Why are you stuck on that environmentalist shit? It doesn’t matter to me. Go worry about climate change somewhere else, stop bothering me.”

                  My brother in christ. Climate change will affect you whether you want it to or not. Capitalism will affect you whether you want it to or not. You can’t just be “out” of it. You can’t not take a side in whether the earth gets destroyed or not (environmentalism) or whether 90% of the world’s population is plunged into neo-feudal slavery. You’re either with the slave-owners or against them. You gotta pick a side!

        • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          565·
          1 year ago

          We were invited here by the Lemmy.ml mods on behalf of their community. If the majority of users on Lemmy.ml wanted us gone then the Mods wouldn’t have federated with us in the first place. Maybe you misread the community you joined 2 months ago? The mods of Lemmy.ml sure as heck didn’t misread hexbear before federating with us.

          • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
            56·
            1 year ago

            on behalf of their community

            Oh sure 😂

            The mods of Lemmy.ml sure as heck didn’t misread hexbear before federating with us

            They sure as hell aren’t gonna misread the comment sections now

            • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              50·
              1 year ago

              What’s hilarious is that you think your mods are on your side in this fight. Why did you think they invited us here?

              You’ve been here for two months. You don’t know what the history of the website is. You don’t know the character of its administrators. I’ve got a secret for you: they’re leftists like us. In fact the whole lemmyverse was created by Marxist-Lenninists. This must be the very first time you’ve ventured out of your information bubble. Welcome. We’re going to bully the shit out of you until you can behave amicably. Did you think you could just show up to someone else’s community and start acting like you owned the place? There will be no eternal september here.

            • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              43·
              1 year ago

              Most people on lemmy came here because they didn’t like the way reddit was moderated. If you don’t like how Lemmy.ml s moderated you can go somewhere else like back to reddit or make your own instance. “Be the change you want to see in the world.” This is 100% a “you” problem and it is funny (in a sad sort of way) that you think otherwise.

              • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
                27·
                1 year ago

                Most people on lemmy came here because they didn’t like the way reddit was moderated

                Duh, and somehow irrelevant, but nice try

                I’m not gonna let some scumbag tell me to leave. Federating with you all has made this site worse and we’ll see how well this goes. This is not a “me” problem, but a “you bunch of scumbags” problem.

                • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  43·
                  1 year ago

                  I’m not telling you to leave. I kinda like you. All I have to do is exist and you suffer. I don’t really care if you to suffer but it does validate my self worth that I can effect you so easily. Your stubbornness makes me like you more because you refuse to disengage from validating my ego.

                  My previous comment was just trying to be fair and explain why leaving Lemmy.ml was the only likely way to end your pain at having to hear opinions you don’t agree with but I guess I made it too complex. Enjoying your suffering is only fair if you are doing it of your own free will.

                  You also aren’t using the “you problem vs me problem” meme correctly. The idea is that a “you problem” is something that only inconveniences you and and thus you are the one who has to fix it. We “bunch of scumbags” are actually quite happy with how things are going and as such wont be trying to change anything. And I as I was trying to explain I doubt anyone else (AKA moderators) is going to come fix things for you.

                  I hope you continue to spend lots of time on Lemmy.ml (you know the M L stands for Marx and Lenin right?) We hexagonal ursines will enjoy our time visiting here.

                  • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
                    27·
                    1 year ago

                    “Scumbag” = “Shitheads looking someone to pile on and shit on because they said something the horde didn’t like”

                    Sorry, I forgot I’m supposed to be the NPC here and lay on the floor soaking punches for your pleasure

                    Fucking scumbag

                  • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
                    15·
                    1 year ago

                    Lmfao I don’t think you guys get it. I’m not against communism 😂 This isn’t politics. But just like with the Christians, I having trouble with the fucking fandom right now. JFC you all are awful in every way. Funny because I keep getting called a Redditor for some reason and yet you all reply just like them.

    • Krause [he/him]
      678·
      1 year ago

      Propaganda is when you say the same thing Reuters, CNN, WSJ, etc are all saying about draft corruption in Ukraine lol

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      7012·
      1 year ago

      federation isn’t brigading. a post shows up in our feeds, we click on it and comment because helping people dodge the draft is cool and good. We’re one of the largest instances, and the consensus we have on issues like “conscription is bad” should not be taken as coordination on the part of hexbear users. If we did deliberately coordinate we’d all link you clowns to the thread where we did it because it would be funny.

      • tellah@sh.itjust.works
        208·
        1 year ago

        No but it’s weird that I never see any comments supporting Ukraine from hexbear users. Like the country was invaded, there is evidence of massive human rights atrocities. It is beyond the pale that so many people would just coincidentally celebrate every piece of bad news for the people being invaded and spin everything negatively against them. One would expect some diversity of opinions from any reasonably large instance but hexbear users all act like pro-russian trolls.

        • Krause [he/him]
          1414·
          1 year ago

          it’s weird that I never see any comments supporting Ukraine from hexbear users

          Over on Hexbear and Lemmygrad we don’t take kindly to neo-nazis stalin heart hands sorry but that’s just how it is

          • harpuajim@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1312·
            1 year ago

            What does that have to do with Ukraine defending itself against an unprovoked invasion?

            • Aria
              107·
              1 year ago

              What about the 8 years they spent provoking it?

      • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
        75·
        1 year ago

        Never heard of hexbear but why does an instance that claims to be leftist use Trump memes and back Russia?

        • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          487·
          1 year ago

          Trump is funny. Obviously. Terrible but hilarious. We don’t back Russia we just understand NATO to generally be far more destructive and deadly. That’s just old Tom Bombadilaros thoughts.

          • Revanee@lemmy.one
            106·
            1 year ago

            That’s so dumb… To consider a defensive alliance more destructive and deadly that a corrupt state waging a war of expansion

          • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
            44·
            1 year ago

            Russia - starts wars and threatens nuclear holocaust - you sleep

            NATO - literally just exists - you wake

            Russia’s #1 export is troll farms and that’s why Russia is the most hated country in the world. Y’all just give people more reason to hate Russia.

            • egg1918 [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
              231·
              1 year ago

              NATO - literally just exists - you wake

              How many millions of civilians were murdered/killed/starved/driven from their homes/displaced by American and NATO led imperialist wars such as the bombing of Yugoslavia, the invasion of Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya, or Isr*el’s genocidal occupation of Palestine, which is proudly supported by the US and NATO?

                • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  9·
                  1 year ago

                  You honestly think less civilians were killed in all those things COMBINED than by Russia? Really? That’s actually one of the most wild liberal claims I’ve ever seen, and thats saying something. You’ve lost attachment to reality.

                  • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
                    11·
                    1 year ago

                    Prove me wrong. If you can’t, well of course you’re a troll farm and you’re part of the reason Russia has a reputation as the shitstain of the world.

                • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  51·
                  1 year ago

                  You ignorant gnome. We hate Russsia more than you. Russia is the liberal democratic nation built by the US from the corpse of our comunist forebears. I’d ask if you ever read a history book but your Midwest tag proves the only ones you got were written by Haliburton so it isn’t your fault you are the way you are. If I wver visit your region I must try to trap you I in a circle of salt and force you to actually read some theory.

                  • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    Russia is not liberal or democratic. It is a corrupt capitalist oligarchy/dictatorship with limited human rights. It was built by the US from the corpse of the USSR.

                    Y’all claim to hate Russia but also spend a suspicious amount of time defending it.

                  • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    Also, just do a quick browse of midwest.social vs hexbear. Your instance acts and talks like 4chan or the_donald.

                    If I wver visit your region I must try to trap you I in a circle of salt and force you to actually read some theory.

                    Is it an actual book or is it wojak spam, because I love reading but your wojak spam is insufferable.

        • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          334·
          1 year ago

          Because Russia is the same as America in pretty much every way. So it is fascist infighting. Trump is also the same as pretty much the same as every other president. Liberals just hate him for idiosyncratic reasons. So it is funny

          • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
            22·
            1 year ago

            Russia is America’s every bad quality dialed up to 12 on steroids. Russia actually manages to make America look good, that’s just what a steaming pile of garbage Russia is. The bar is so low even America can get over it.

            • charlie [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              151·
              1 year ago

              NATO - starts wars and keeps the meat grinder rolling all in the furtherance of capitalist dogma - you sleep

              Russia - literally just exists - you wake

              NATO’s #1 export is war and that’s why NATO is hated around the world. Y’all just give people more reason to hate NATO.

              • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
                22·
                1 year ago

                Russia starting a war with 350,000 casualties and threatening to nuke the West is not literally just existing. If Russia wanted to literally just exist, they never would have literally invaded another country while lying about “training exercises”.

                You’re pro-Russian terrorism, it’s not a good look.

                • charlie [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  111·
                  1 year ago

                  NATO encircled a world power and for the last couple decades have worked to instigate a war that has led to the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people on the gamble that Russia would fall and allow the west to loot the country, exactly as they plan to loot a war torn Ukraine. For capitalism.

                  You’re pro-NATO terrorism, it’s not a good look.

                  • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
                    12·
                    1 year ago

                    That’s pure speculation.

                    You literally have to create a fantasy about NATO doing something in the future to justify Russia actually doing evil things right now.

                    Being pro imaginary terrorism is way better than being pro real terrorism.

    • ComradeChairmanKGB
      588·
      1 year ago

      Very cool that the moment someone says “brigading” I can look at their profile and see, yup they joined in June. Wonder why that is 🤔

      • Grimble [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        308·
        1 year ago

        Every wonder why this kind of liberal belief never just naturally develops in new communities like ours? Notice how they always have to insert themselves from outside and takeover modding to have any relevance? Yeah, that.

    • Onimasta [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      386·
      1 year ago

      Oh man, that brings me back to the days when r/cth used to brigade other subs. Those were the times.

      Never thought I’d live long enough to see it again…

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        455·
        1 year ago

        The best part was that it was always just the fact we were all terminally online and saw the same frontpage threads as everyone else. It was (almost) never an actual brigade, just the result of having a bunch of very active posters with better politics than the average redditor. That’s all it took to make the worst people on reddit pit over being unable to consistently silence people with better opinions than their own.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4417·
      1 year ago

      If you’re so eager to defend a military conscription/draft, why don’t you go and fight on the frontline yourself? This whole article is about Zelenskyy cracking down on Ukrainian citizens avoiding the conscription because they don’t want to be sent into the meat grinder that is the heavily fortified front lines.

      It’s always those that face the least consequences from war that are the most eager for it to continue.

      • erik@lemmy.mlEnglish
        53·
        1 year ago

        Oh the tired arguments of ruzzians.

        This is about cracking down on leaders who haven’t thrown out leaders under them who have been corrupt.

        This is a good thing.

        And that whole argument: why aren’t you on the frontlines is so tired, and didn’t make sense in the first place.

        Who wants an old Norwegian who barely knows both Russian and Ukrainian on the frontlines when he can be at home financing drones and telling his government to step up support?

    • Taako_Tuesday@lemmy.ca
      228·
      1 year ago

      Hexbear users rushing to bombard this comment with image reactions to say they’re not brigading

      • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        166·
        1 year ago

        “Everyone knows that the left and the right are the same and that the REASONABLE MODERATE CENTER is best! Right? Right? It’s not as though Biden is a war criminal rapist segregationist and virtually the twin brother of Trump, right? America might have some problems (ongoing slavery, genocide, imperialism, civilizational suicide via climate change) but it’s still overall a force for good, right???”

        • Gsus4@feddit.nl
          31·
          1 year ago

          I get that you guys love seeing trump do stupid shit and abuse his power as president, because it vindicates your view of the US government, but still, the asshole that tells his fans to harass people and shits on rule of law is objectively worse than the ones who didn’t, please. I thought one of hexbear’s redeeming qualities was at least anti-homophobia, anti-misogyny, etc. This whole “trump is no worse than anyone else” is just crypto-trumpism and one example of why you guys are accused of being the lefty version of MAGAts.

          • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            113·
            1 year ago

            Roe v. Wade was undone and LGBTQ+ rights are collapsing with Biden and the Democrats running the country. Biden also regularly sends the police to deport and/or imprison anyone who isn’t white. Nobody loves or funds the 100% nazi police more than Biden; Biden has actually signed MORE drilling permits than Trump. Biden and Trump are fascists, as are you for excusing them.

          • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            82·
            1 year ago

            the marxist party in my country in Europe

            I’m frightened to ask about what their positions are on any policy at all. Let me guess: do what amerikkka says or your are helping putler. That kind of “marxist”?

              • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                51·
                1 year ago

                “I reject them both” = i luv amerikkka

                It’s really amazing. “I reject them both, but very curiously I only criticize one. Why could that be?“🤔

                  • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    71·
                    1 year ago

                    Your assumption that Ukraine is an independent country is already an implicit endorsement of American imperialism and slavery. Ukraine has not been independent since the Maidan Coup in 2014. There are recordings of Victoria Nuland confirming this; to deny it means that you are living in a fantasy realm, one paid for with the blood of slaves in the global south. And when you recognize that American imperialism and settler colonialism is a boot on the neck of the global south, you likewise understand that anyone fighting it deserves our critical support, even if they are not angels. Besides, even if everything liberals say about Russia is true, the Iraq War alone is and was a far greater crime than anything [the liberal Harry Potter-esque fantasy of] Putin could dream of. And besides, wasn’t the modern nation state of Russia created by American liberals in the first place? How much money did Clinton give Yeltsin in the 1990s?

          • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            8·
            1 year ago

            My minority, lgbtqia+, suffers daily in Russia

            I’m going to let someone more educated on the geopolitics involved handle the rest of this (hopefully someone will) but i really want to zero in on this because.

            there are like, 2 cishet people on all of Hexbear. Its like the most queer space on the internet thats not explicitly only for queer people… It is AGRESSIVLY pro-trans, and purged the slightest hints of transphobia in its early days. The admin team is 100% queer i’m pretty sure.

            We think the oppression of queer people in Russia is bad. Whatever support an individual Hexbear has for Russia, its not for Putin’s regime or the Russian government. It is, as you yourself say, opposition to NATO. Again, I’m not going to get into the why of that, but please don’t imply that we support the Russian government’s oppression of queer people.

              • brain_in_a_box [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                6·
                1 year ago

                What do you think critical support means?

                It’s unironically the unsafest safe space I’ve ever encountered.

                If that’s really true, you may well be the most sheltered person on earth.

                  • brain_in_a_box [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    5·
                    1 year ago

                    Spare me the self-righteousness, if “the people I was rude too were rude back to me” is something you can describe as “the most unsafe space I have ever encountered” without feeling deeply embarrassed, then you have no business trying to pontificate about what actually marginalised people endure. No amount of cope about how you’re totally definitely not big mad, but your girlfriend in Canada is, will change that.

                    English isn’t my first language but elaborate how “Russia needs our critical support” isn’t a support of Russia.

                    So you didn’t know what it meant, but you used it to insult someone anyway?

                    It means support from a place of criticism, in the sense of “I don’t agree with them in general, but align on certain things”.

                    Look, I’ll back up a bit and try to be more sincere here. There are three points I would like you to consider. The first is that your own behaviour has not exactly been free of toxicity. The second is that we on hexbear are used to liberals coming in with naked bad faith hostility, so we’ve, unfortunately fallen to the habit of responding in kind. This leads into my third point; the hostility you describe sounds basically like the bog standard normal that I’ve experienced when trying to converse in mainstream liberal spaces; Hexbear is one of the few spaces where I’m not showered with abuse for the crime of having a political alignment outside the overton window of a country I’m not even from.

              • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                Sounds like someone else has already explained the critical support thing to you, I didnt really understand the term at first either and English IS my first language, so I actually understand this one.

                I hope you can see that my comrade’s defensive stance is because of past experiances and not anything personal.

                I actually dont disagree that people here sometimes make unfair assumptions about the person they’re talking to. I remember the human and understand where they’re coming from and why that assume that though (past experiences with people who are like that). I wish my friends would try to remember the human more too, but I get why they can forget because of their experiences. I hope that makes sense.

                  • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    3·
                    1 year ago

                    I can actually understand all that very well. Sorry about your negative experience

                    I do want to mention one thing though

                    it’s this that made me consider your community dangerous, especially for minority groups.

                    Our “weaponized anger” is quiet frequently used in defense of minority groups, particularly trans people. She’s gone now but one of our original admins, TransComrade69, was militantly defensive of trans people and it really shaped how our community formed. We also do our best to do the same for other queer people, bipoc, the disabled and nuerodiverse, women, the poor, and (most relevant to the arguments we get into here) people from the global south.

                    But I actually do understand how our community’s stance can be offputting for some people and wouldnt recommend it to just anyone, even leftists.

    • UFO@programming.dev
      62·
      1 year ago

      My cats have learned the wirr motor sound of the feeder means food. So they’ll run from whereever in the house at an motor sound. Suddenly like “it’s food time right? Right? But the noise means food…” Regardless of any further context.

      Same same but different with hexbear.