This should help us cut down on the trolls. We recommend other instances do the same, because they will likely be targeted also.
I apologize for all their gore-posts as well, no one should have to see that. We’ll try to look for more admins from different time-zones as well to get them faster.
The two other possibilities we have currently as options, are turning on required email verification, and as a last resort, closing signups. I personally would rather not do either, but they are options.
Many thanks to @k_o_t@lemmy.ml and @AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml for banning those trolls.
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Not opposed as long as someone else codes it lol. I’m a bit swamped.
Invite only instances would be also nice for self-hosting.
Fantastic idea! I actually never thought about this, this could probably be done fediverse-wide.
The brigading is really unfortunate and thanks to the admins for doing all the work to contain it. As Lemmy grows in usage requiring email verification may be unavoidable, but hopefully having a registration application will do the trick in the immediate term. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later, so at least this is a useful test case for how such brigading and spam can be addressed going forward.
I downvoted and reported as many posts as I can, I don’t know how much that helped but it was good to check back a couple hours later and see that the trolls’ posts had been removed
Thank you for all the work you do!
No probs!
Perhaps to avoid this type of user, a pre-school intelligence test would suffice.
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I’m not talking about trolls, I’m talking about Nazis and these guys with fixed ideas, by definition, are never luminaries, less if they are simple guys and not rich people, the latter almost always only sympathize with fascism, because it is the political orientation that most favors the savage capitalism that favors them.
For the rest, the waving flags with the svastica tattooed can be seen as follows
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Agree with this, naturally requires vigilance. But these, trolls, spamers and similar fauna, cannot be avoided by adding an email to the registry. Spammers can perhaps be avoided by simply waiting an hour before sending the registration confirmation, since spammers often use temporary emails that expire earlier.
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Reddit and anonymity? 🤣 Reddit even pass user data to Facebook and worse, TowerData, the last even uses keylogger.
https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=reddit.com
Data to
https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=Neustar.com
and
https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=TowerData.com
This mean, all big tech nows the data from reddit users
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Thanks a lot! I have implemented this in my instance too. This past week I was also saw several accounts being created to post ads.
After upgrading to 0.15.1, I activated the signup form. I haven’t had to deal with the daily trolls. Not ideal but it helps.
I think having more admins from more time zones is the best solution, then e-mail verification and then having to fill out a form because it takes time to be reviewed and it takes more time from me because i have to write shit and anyway i can lie.
No worries. I have seen surprisingly few of these types of posts, so you’re currently doing something better then other alternatives and I appreciate your efforts to make things even better.
Admins could also tweak
register_per_second
andregister
paramsThe account registration UX is bad enough, why make it worse?
The first five words of the title
Would be nice to hear why you think it’s bad and how to improve it. Could you open an issue on the tracker?
You do not need to apologize for actions of others, you did your best and you found a solution for this issue which is what at the end counts.
My idea was to introduce some sort of reputation based system but the problem is, that bots maybe could abuse the system to upvote themselves to get some sort of credit or reputation, call it what you want. Most boards use captchas and eMail verification systems to workaround this. Maybe an option would be to enable captchas for users who have below x posts as a middle ground.
Reputation would just turn this into Reddit, where you can’t do anything or interact unless you use a single account or post what Reddit would like you to post.
The Lemmy devs have already decided that karma is just a bottomless pit that just harms users mental health, so it’s highly doubtful we’d ever have a reputation system be introduced, as that’s literally the same thing.
Also, captchas can be preventative to people with certain disabilities, so introducing them (I believe it would be reintroducing, actually) would contradict Lemmy’s disability-inclusive culture. As well, email verification wouldn’t work for people who would prefer anonymity. And nefarious users could just use a spoof mail account, so the introduction of required email account verification would really only harm privacy-focused real users, and do nothing to prevent trolls. Also, while on the subject and though you didn’t mention it, we don’t ban IPs because some VPNs reuse them for multiple people. So banning the IP of a troll might also cause the ban of real users.
These are my thoughts on email too. Using throwaways is so easy for trolls, and legitimate users now have a privacy concern since a lot of the “legitimate” email services are really invasive.
Hopefully this should be enough to prevent coordinated attacks , I will gladly assist with moderation in the IST timezone if things get worse
I downvoted and reported as many posts as I can, I don’t know how much that helped but it was good to check back a couple hours later and see that the trolls’ posts had been removed
just letting you know your comment doubled.
Also,it would be nice to have some sort of moderation/ban federation to avoid having to do the work on each instance.
I’m sure it’s easier said than done but would be very beneficial to the project and community.
I second this. If someone/something is banned and removed from an instance it shouldn’t still be visible on a linked instance. If this isn’t already a pending feature request I’ll happily make one for it.
I think there is an open issue for federating bans. Once @nutomic@lemmy.ml gets some time he said it wouldn’t be too difficult.