I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who thought the ending was a load of liberal horseshit. I got the feeling the writers just needed the law punish someone at the end of the BB story, since Walt and Jesse more or less got away with it, but it also felt like they were punishing the audience for daring to like the likeable scumbag character they wrote. Liberals just want to be the teacher. How dare you have fun? go to detention!
I liked it, made sense to me that walter or jessie dont get caught or punished.
I will agree that the entire show has a right-wing liberal idea of drugs, morality and such. I think it was only good because of the acting, dialogue, camera work ect all being 10/10 but when the ideology shines through (and its always there) the bias of the director and the writers can shine its ugly head thru.
I think mostly about how there are basically no black characters in the entire show, about a drug kingpin in america; I mean think about that lol, you manage to go two entire shows without even discussing the root of politics of the drug war of america and its the freaking topic of the show lol.
Avoiding the discussion of the politics of the drug war definitely felt kind of surreal watching it. I do agree that in terms of execution the show was great though. I just found the ending with Saul giving himself up really hamfisted and completely out of character for him. It just felt like moralizing for the sake of it.
I just found the ending with Saul giving himself up really hamfisted and completely out of character for him. It just felt like moralizing for the sake of it.
I think they wanted to do the whole ‘threes’ thing, Walt dies, Jesse escapes, Saul gets arrested.
I do agree Sauls denegration near the end felt out of character to a degree, the guy was a con artist/lawyer his whole life and I dont see him getting that deranged in his old age.
Walt piles up bodies but it is clear that the bodies originated from the ultra-rich Gretchen and Elliot and not our hero Walt because of the poverty of life they cause by accumulating surplus value.
Is this correct? I only watched until the bee filler episode but as I recall the bourgeois couple do not show up after the first few episodes. I don’t disagree that they have a hand in the criminality that follows but I don’t think the show tried to make their role in it apparent. After the first few episodes it essentially becomes Walt’s Bizarre Adventures in Cooking and Dealing Meth.
Edit: nevermind looks like they feature more in the show as the next paragraph says.
Yeah, Walt is fully responsible. The bourgeois couple are revealed to not even be that bad. The idea that they stole from him is walt’s delusion. He left because of his inferiority complex (which he developed at a very young age).
Honestly, the show is closer to being a Greek tragedy. Many people take it to be a critique of capitalism because of the background context and world models we as an audience bring to the show.
In fact, the show goes out of its way to show that every moment in time, Walt has an out that he refuses to use because of pride. The show itself also analyses the role of the state or big business in the crime or poverty happening only tangentially and gives very little screen time to it.
By the chronology of the show, no. It would have been infinitely easier for Walt to have swallowed his pride and taken money from gretchen, or even borrowed from hank.
Him becoming a drug lord was always about his own personal pride and sense of worth. It made him feel alive and powerful.
The spark comes from it though, also think about a more structral approach; a socialized health care system would have taken the floor out of Walts meth and drug empire, he would have likely just been a high ranking pharma industry guy.
Slightly off topic, but I really liked this take on better call Saul https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/23/better-call-sauls-liberal-guilt-trip/
I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who thought the ending was a load of liberal horseshit. I got the feeling the writers just needed the law punish someone at the end of the BB story, since Walt and Jesse more or less got away with it, but it also felt like they were punishing the audience for daring to like the likeable scumbag character they wrote. Liberals just want to be the teacher. How dare you have fun? go to detention!
Indeed, the ending basically ruined the whole show for me.
I liked it, made sense to me that walter or jessie dont get caught or punished.
I will agree that the entire show has a right-wing liberal idea of drugs, morality and such. I think it was only good because of the acting, dialogue, camera work ect all being 10/10 but when the ideology shines through (and its always there) the bias of the director and the writers can shine its ugly head thru.
I think mostly about how there are basically no black characters in the entire show, about a drug kingpin in america; I mean think about that lol, you manage to go two entire shows without even discussing the root of politics of the drug war of america and its the freaking topic of the show lol.
Avoiding the discussion of the politics of the drug war definitely felt kind of surreal watching it. I do agree that in terms of execution the show was great though. I just found the ending with Saul giving himself up really hamfisted and completely out of character for him. It just felt like moralizing for the sake of it.
I think they wanted to do the whole ‘threes’ thing, Walt dies, Jesse escapes, Saul gets arrested.
I do agree Sauls denegration near the end felt out of character to a degree, the guy was a con artist/lawyer his whole life and I dont see him getting that deranged in his old age.
That’s probably what they were going for, but definitely felt kind of hamfisted to me.
Is this correct? I only watched until the bee filler episode but as I recall the bourgeois couple do not show up after the first few episodes. I don’t disagree that they have a hand in the criminality that follows but I don’t think the show tried to make their role in it apparent. After the first few episodes it essentially becomes Walt’s Bizarre Adventures in Cooking and Dealing Meth.
Edit: nevermind looks like they feature more in the show as the next paragraph says.
Yeah, Walt is fully responsible. The bourgeois couple are revealed to not even be that bad. The idea that they stole from him is walt’s delusion. He left because of his inferiority complex (which he developed at a very young age).
Honestly, the show is closer to being a Greek tragedy. Many people take it to be a critique of capitalism because of the background context and world models we as an audience bring to the show.
In fact, the show goes out of its way to show that every moment in time, Walt has an out that he refuses to use because of pride. The show itself also analyses the role of the state or big business in the crime or poverty happening only tangentially and gives very little screen time to it.
don’t expect theory from your treats
The american health care system is responsible as well
By the chronology of the show, no. It would have been infinitely easier for Walt to have swallowed his pride and taken money from gretchen, or even borrowed from hank.
Him becoming a drug lord was always about his own personal pride and sense of worth. It made him feel alive and powerful.
The spark comes from it though, also think about a more structral approach; a socialized health care system would have taken the floor out of Walts meth and drug empire, he would have likely just been a high ranking pharma industry guy.