The attacked country has to decide if it wants to invoke Article 5, so if it was Ukraine then nothing will happen most likely. But if said country does invoke the article, the rest are automatically drawn in, no matter how unpopular the decision or conflict is.
That’s not even true. Article 5 is not a button that any NATO country can just push and guarantee that the rest of NATO comes to their aid. The article itself only calls for consultation but even if it did say “immediately go to war” it would still not happen automatically like liberals think, actions like declarations of war are at the end of the day still political decisions. International treaties are not computer programs that just execute when conditions are met. They have to be implemented by humans, those currently in power. Countries can still just say no. The US for instance breaks its treaties all the time. The reason why countries go to war is because their ruling elites want to, not because of some piece of paper. If they decide it’s not worth it politically or economically for the elite then they won’t do it. Now this is of course different when countries are vassals and their ruling elites are compradors completely subjugated to an imperial power, so it is very likely that the US could force a good deal of NATO to join a war against their will (though they’d have a hard time with the more independent minded like Turkey), but that’s just cause Europe has no independence and its rulers are in Washington’s pocket.
Absolutely tragic loss of life. I’m sorry for the victims and their loved ones.
It’s unconfirmed that the missile belongs to Russia. If the missile is an S300, it’s likely Ukraine’s air defense missile, a misfire.
The S300 has a range of 150km, way too far for Russian defense systems to have hit Poland.
It’s possible that the missile misfired while trying to destroy a Russian missile targeted in the Lviv direction (it landed 70km from Lviv).
Open Source Intel Twitter also thinks it’s Ukrainian misfire: https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1592603808634638336?s=20&t=hFJzsIbIDipsSANQ0FvtDQ
So…does that mean nato will attack ukraine?
The attacked country has to decide if it wants to invoke Article 5, so if it was Ukraine then nothing will happen most likely. But if said country does invoke the article, the rest are automatically drawn in, no matter how unpopular the decision or conflict is.
That’s not even true. Article 5 is not a button that any NATO country can just push and guarantee that the rest of NATO comes to their aid. The article itself only calls for consultation but even if it did say “immediately go to war” it would still not happen automatically like liberals think, actions like declarations of war are at the end of the day still political decisions. International treaties are not computer programs that just execute when conditions are met. They have to be implemented by humans, those currently in power. Countries can still just say no. The US for instance breaks its treaties all the time. The reason why countries go to war is because their ruling elites want to, not because of some piece of paper. If they decide it’s not worth it politically or economically for the elite then they won’t do it. Now this is of course different when countries are vassals and their ruling elites are compradors completely subjugated to an imperial power, so it is very likely that the US could force a good deal of NATO to join a war against their will (though they’d have a hard time with the more independent minded like Turkey), but that’s just cause Europe has no independence and its rulers are in Washington’s pocket.
😔 no funny turn of events
Pentagon says cannot confirm reports about missiles striking Poland https://www.rt.com/news/566588-pentagon-cannot-confirm-missile-poland/
Russia denies striking Poland https://www.rt.com/russia/566589-russia-no-strikes-on-poland/
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