• Shrike502
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    Meanwhile there’s word that New Horizons mission will be shutting down, because they’re a few million dollars short. But I guess another billion in loans for Nazis to prolong a preventable war is better, huh?

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      It’s difficult to express in words how I feel seeing my country trip over itself to throw billions of dollars into a black hole while millions of my own people live in poverty and die of preventable diseases. How long have we been fighting for something as basic as universal healthcare and the answer is always “it costs too much.” I guess money is no object when we’re funding nazis

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        Universal healthcare saves money. It’s kept private so that corporations can squeeze you for cash, feeding it to a bloated insurance and hospital industry, particularly to the owners of those industries.

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          It’s also to chain people to their jobs. Plenty of Americans understand that their jobs are pointless, coercive, exploitative and only intended to increase the wealth of their bosses. No one would work at these places if it weren’t for the health insurance.

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            The health insurance that, most of the time, doesn’t even fucking pay out then you need it anyway.

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          no argument here, it’s our representatives that keep repeating “it costs too much/it will lower quality of care”

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        It makes perfect sense when you realize the people making any of those decisions are, firstly, amoral monstrosities (and no, I don’t mind dehumanizing anyone in the top levels of government- they are not humans) and secondly they/their buddies/their family, etc. profit DIRECTLY from the US arms/research industry and the US pharma industry/private medical industry, etc.

        Universal healthcare for everyone and abolition of unnecessary insurance companies (a government agency would handle logistics, triage if necessary (oh no death panels!), etc.) would directly result in loss of money for congress and/or people/groups they personally want to see benefit. A truly anti-war stance, no sanctions, no additional arms to ANY country, military drawn and cutting off intelligence agencies completely would also directly cost them money or, at the absolute least, the least corrupt vector, cost them the endorsement of people/corporations that seek to see continuation of arms production and private healthcare.

        When you really see the motivations and accept that anyone who lands in those powerful positions always seems to cave to the power or do far too little or simply can’t do anything even in those positions (look at Bernie. He’s only one man. He says this stuff out loud for like 30 years+ now in congress and what has changed? It’s only gotten worse!) you start to arrive at the only solutions being outside the system which perpetuates these outcomes. And now that I have intrigued the assigned lemmygrad FBI agent, I should probably stop there.

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      We should really disable downvotes on lemmygrad, maybe then these libs will explain their reason why healthcare should be cut in favour of destroying precious US military equipment in the wild fields?

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        On the one hand - yea, I’m genuinely curious what got people so twisted. Is science a controversial topic now? Is it due to using the term Nazi? Calling the war preventable?

        On the other hand, I’m not sure my blood sugar could handle the level of brainrot that would inevitably be in such replies. Besides, most of the “arguments” are easy enough to predict - just go to anywhere more mainstream online, i.e. lemmy main

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          just go to anywhere more mainstream online, i.e. lemmy main

          There’s a difference though, here such rot will be countered, ridiculed and banned properly if needed, and on lemmy main we just observe surfacing iceberg of horrible takes (despite my respect for Dessalines, mod team there is making horrible job).

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        How about no. Let them seethe. It’s the only way we have to show them disapproval and show people this is a principled Marxist instance by downvoting them. No shade to our mods and admins but they’re busy and the liberals are many, and frankly they don’t have a policy of banning them just for coming here with bad takes. They should be sunk to the bottom of the thread (only real impact it has since downvotes overall don’t matter here) and 99/100 times they are. Rare is the liberal brigade that can overcome our mighty defenses.