• DankZedong A
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    You could read actual works by Marx but it would require being able to read pages longer than a Wikipedia article.

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      Franz Mehring wrote thick biography of Marx, he was direct witness of many events and knew even more participants. I must read it someday when i will have some time.

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      Your assumption that the person you are talking to isn’t familiar with it gives away that you are full of bullshit. Pick up a bunch of history books irl and read them from start to finish. Stop learning from memes and reddit posts.

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        The person I’m talking to links Wikipedia articles and tells me to read ‘history books’ lmao. Of course I’m not taking it seriously.

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          And who do you take seriously? People telling you exactly what you want to hear?

          You seem familiar with Marx so cross check yourself the data with Wikipedia

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            Ah yes, cuz Wikipedia is the holy grail of information. No, don’t read stuff by yourself, don’t pick up a book, just use wikipedia.


            fucking liberals

            Damn, you’re proving why we have this emoji

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            Yes debunked claims such as Stalin being a dictator, which all historical evidence shows that he wasn’t.

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              Uhhhhhh…wait…uhhhh…uhhhhhh…when you say

              all historical evidence shows that he wasn’t

              what you really mean is

              all historical evidence shows that he was

              right???

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        Ok. I mean, I’m not going to do it IRL, since I have them on my tablet, but I’ll go read Blackshirts and Reds, Triumph of Evil, the Book of the Hopi, The Cold War and Its Origins, The Hidden History of the Korean War. I’ll also recommend you read them.

        Edit: How could I forget Killing Hope?!

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          Whichever the media, you get and understand its contents.

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          Grover Furr, Khrushchev Lied and Dominico Losurdo’s book on Stalin are also quite good.

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          Read them all and draw your own conclusions on whether Stalin was a brutal dictator or someone to worship. I suggest you to read on paper or eink display to not strain your eyes.

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            Stalin was neither a brutal dictator nor someone to worship.

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              WAIT wait wait wait wait, hold on, okay…so…uhhhh…okay, so, when you say

              Stalin was neither a brutal dictator nor someone to worship.

              what you’re REALLY saying is

              Stalin was a brutal dictator and someone to worship.

              is this right??? pls tell me

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            https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#did-the-soviet-union-repress-and-kill-millions-of-people Again, why don’t you address nothing that’s been presented here, if you are so sure on your points, you can certainly present a competent argument about why those sources are not to be believed or why the other sources are better, let’s debate history, sources, methodology instead of just calling people dictators and posting wikipedia links, again make an argument for the sources that constitute the wikipedia articles you are mentioning, let’s move the discussion forward, I’m not against the debate, but let’s have one, you are asking everyone to read stuff, but what about you read some of our stuff as well, and let’s have a civil discussion about stuff.