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On “Why is keeping the tap on wasting water if there’s the water cycle and the amount of water on Earth stays constant?”
This question is asked with surprising frequency. We were all taught in school to "turn that tap off and don't waste water!" Also, the recent regulatory mandates of low-flow toilets and showers which a lot of people seem to hate for some reason. Inevitably the question is raised: "Wait, if all the water on Earth is bound in the water cycle and just goes around the world in perpetuity, why does it matter?" It may seem to many here like a stupid question or a troll if someone asks this, but I think at least some of the people asking this is asking genuinely. In school, I was never given a satisfactory answer for this, it was all vague and oversimplified, and it wasn't until I studied environmental science in university that I understood fully why that is still wasting water. So, I'm about to explain it as thoroughly as I can while keeping it as layman friendly as I can: First of all, before even considering water: if you keep the tap on, you're wasting energy and other chemicals. Energy because tap water is pumped, and since water is really heavy, a lot of a city's energy goes into keeping the water lines pressurized. Chemicals because tap water is treated, quite intensively in many places, including chlorination, fluoridation, and the addition of certain minerals to do things like combat pipe corrosion. All of those things are resources that need to be extracted from natural sources, refined, and injected into the water, which also takes energy. In some places like parts of California and the Middle East, you might be getting your tap water from a reverse osmosis plant, which is a technological marvel and can produce clean freshwater from sea water or even sewage, but also takes a metric ass load of energy. Finally, if you're running the sink tap or the shower, you're running warm water, which obviously takes energy to heat. And unless you're on 100% renewable electricity *and* your water heater is electric or heat pump based, municipal tap water has a pretty high carbon footprint. The water heater alone is one of the biggest energy users in a residential home. But what about wasting *water*? The Bill Nye episode you watched in 1st grade didn't say wasting energy associated with water infrastructure, it directly said you were wasting WATER. How can that be if the water cycle exists? Well, it *is* true that water circulates around the Earth, the supply of fresh, drinkable water is highly limited. Most people get their tap water from one of a few *naturally occurring* places: aquifers and ground water, rivers and streams, lakes, watersheds, snow melt, or some combination of these. However, these have a limited water throughput. With rivers and streams it's the easiest to see, they flow at a certain rate, and you can't exactly increase it when you need more. But it's the same with all of the natural sources of freshwater, you're limited by the rate of precipitation in the area and some other factors like runoff and infiltration rate. Aquifers, lakes and watersheds can act as a reservoir and buffer periodic spikes in water uptake, but even then, how fast they replenish is still ultimately limited by how much water falls on the surrounding area, and if your overall usage exceeds the throughput of that freshwater system, you're going to have a real bad time. And with climate change, we're experiencing more droughts and less even precipitation over a year, so it's actively getting worse. Another huge problem for many places is seasonal water scarcity, for example, here in the Pacific Northwest. We get a ton of rain all winter long, more water than the relatively few cities can ever use, but only so much of it is stored in the ecosystem, so when the summer drought hits, we start running out of water and have to impose strict restrictions like no watering your lawn (don't get me started on how much of an environmental disaster the Western concept of grass lawns are). Finally, adding to this, is the ecological consequences of running a freshwater system dry. Many places rely on the natural ecosystem to filter and purify the water before it's taken up into the municipal water system. For example, if your watershed is in a dense old growth forest, the roots of the trees and other plants act as a water treatment system all by themselves, and you don't have to treat the water manually as intensively, saving those aforementioned resources and energy. But, plants need water too, and if you deplete the watershed, you risk degrading or even collapsing the ecosystem that was doing your water treatment, which, you know, is bad. So yeah, even with the water cycle, you're wasting water by leaving the tap on. In the same way you waste food by not eating it even if it decomposes into compost.

Cat climbed up on the counter and tried to mess em up. ![]( I want to start an indoor and outdoor garden. Planting season is coming up. I'm also having decent success germinating some rice. I'm somewhat regretting my choice to buy pinto and black bean 'seeds'. Also I've been making trips up into the hills to dig up naturally occurring clay and that sort of thing and carry it down in my big backpack. Maybe I can try and make some dirt out of that.... I already went to home depot to get some garden fertilizer, but I prob need to get some high nitrogen stuff in bulk.


I got chili peppers from Thailand growing. What can I do for them to help flowers?
If you told me they weren't GMOs I wouldn't believe you because they grew so, so fast and they're super resilient. I know chili plants are more resilient than other species, but I've never seen something like this. However only one plant is giving me flowers, the others not yet. Can I do something to help flowers grow into fruit? Prune leaves, for example? I seriously have no idea about gardening beyond giving plants water and sunlight.

These are the bamboos I dug up from the neighborhood. I planted them in a pot. And I hope to get some affordable wood stock from these. Also yesterday when me and dad were hiking I took a branch of manzanita which I prepared by shaving and planting with rooting hormone and fertilizer. If that goes well I will share.

> Here, nearly everything is shared. There are two community electric cars - donated by the Erssons who no longer have a private car-, shared bicycles (and bike trailers), an extensive fruit orchard, berry and grape patches, and a considerable community garden space. Photovoltaics provide about two-thirds of the energy consumed by the complex. [...] Rents here are lower than the Portland average because the Erssons want Kailash to be accessible to all income levels. There’s a 300-person waitlist, but Ole hopes others will follow their example. > "If you look at it from an economic perspective no business would want a complex landscape like this because it's way too much maintenance, but what you have to do is turn the maintenance over to the residents, and then they do it: they get joy; it's an antidepressant; it's a way of creating food; it's a way of creating community; so you have to do it in a certain way, but it's definitely a lot more work than the typical grass and shrub landscape for sure."

Potato Buckets!
I have been really into the aspect of growing potatoes in buckets for multiple reasons: For one it seems cheap enough; Secondly the nature of being able to have buckets as a mobilized garden could be great in so many areas. Don’t have the time or energy to cultivate your soil? Bucket. Live in the city surrounded by pavement? Bucket. Are you a renter who can’t grow plants or you don’t even know if you can live there next month, so investing in gardening would be pointless? Bucket. Ever accidentally killed a prominent figure, so you spend your life on the run, moving from country to country never knowing the simple life you once lived but still want to follow your childhood dream of gardening? Bucket. It seems to be that for one pound of potatoes, you’ll get 7 lbs back. It being a root plant, watch its moisture. Cut a chived(?) potato in half and put charcoal on the wound so it doesn’t rot. What’s y’alls take on this.

Roth Stout’s method of gardening
I've tested this out over concrete slabs and over nutrient-starved sand. As long as your bed of mulch and good growing material is thick enough you can grow just about anything. Though, even with the modified method where you add bagged dirt on top of the mulch, I found it difficult to grow anything with short roots.

Where to start?
We finally found a bigger apartment we can afford and have a second bedroom we'd like to use for some of our pastimes like sewing and whatnot. I'd like to start growing some vegetables and maybe fruit as well if possible. Does anyone have any experience with indoor growing with hydroponics or anything? Cheap setups? where do we start?

P.s. The African Violet is named Celery. If anyone has recommendations for names for the seedlings, that’d be great. I have two basils and three (maybe four) eggplants.


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I grew sunflowers for the first time last August. Here’s one of the flowers as it opened!

A person in this community mentioned this multiple times to me, but I'm still learning about it. Actually, just beginning to in all honesty.

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We can avoid the climate apocalypse if we restructure our economics
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Population Control Isn’t the Answer to Climate Change. Capitalism Is. - Is this video propaganda?
I don't have a youtube account. I'll have this discussion here instead in their comment section. Basically all I heard was Greta Thunberg bad because she said billionaires are destroying the environment aren't doing anything-- which is true. and then continues to talk about something completely unrelated; Population control and Eco technology? what does that has to do with what greta said? economical growth isn't going to fix anything because of the fact that the one who wins in the capitalist system is whoever makes the most money. companies will get the most money out of cutting costs with exploiting workers and also the environment, then selling propaganda. as simple as that; capitalism promotes this kind of behavior and never will be eco-friendly. eco-capitalism only works if *everyone* has their importance for humanity and not for money.

Is there a guidebook for humans to change the world?
I think that change starts with people. but how am I going to take back control of what I do if I'm not aware of what is harmful for the environment. or even a reach from that, how to start doing things differently and make a change. I think most of us including myself are misguided by media and politicians. we can't trust people that exploit the environment to guide us. we have to take matters into our own hands to do that.

I would like to share this book on ethical and political obligation for thinking in the more than human worlds of technoscience and naturecultures.

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