Western media wrote that in the first 72-96 hours of the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it was necessary to be on the coast of the Sea of Azov, having broken through the front, to begin the assault on Melitopol.

The first couple days of the attack were supposed to define the offensive. Western analysts focused on a lightning-fast offensive in order to achieve success, and now the operation is moving into positional battles, in fact, resembling the situation in Bakhmut where Ukraine got ground down through attrition.

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    It was all terribly written. They’ve all since “revised” expectations. I’ve been reading a lot of simplicius, and it all makes sense under the context of manufacturing consent to send more garbage to Ukraine.

    The reason media changes their expectations so quickly is because they aren’t actually reporting anything. They are simply trying to manipulate reactionary voters to keep voting for the liberals. Of course opportunistic right wingers are taking advantage of this and dunking on liberal media for rightfully being delusional and fake news. So they have no choice but to “revise” their previous expectations to be more in line with reality, or be totally eviscerated by right wingers.

    https://www.substack.com/@simplicius76

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      This is the main problem with inventing a reality bubble. You can create a compelling narrative and you can get people to believe in it, but sooner or later it will be forced to be reconciled with the real world. Western propagandists have successfully convinced the public that Ukraine is winning the war and that Russia is about to collapse, but now this narrative is starting to come apart and we’re seeing increasing panic in the western political class.

      The first week of the Ukrainian offensive has been an utter debacle. They haven’t even managed to reach the first line of actual defences that Russia has erected. By the time the offensive burns itself out, there’s likely not much to be left of the Ukrainian army. All the weapons, ammunition, and equipment that the west managed to cobble together will be gone, and the west does not have capacity to replenish these things. On top of it, the army will be heavily depleted and demoralized. The public in the west will be shocked. All of this will make it very difficult to keep the war going for the west.

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        It’s amazing seeing even the most deluded NAFO trolls spinning their heads trying to understand the situation. For us it’s easy. Ukraine has to justify themselves to their western investors. For the average NAFO zombie, to admit such would prove the war is a proxy conflict between NATO and Russia, and Ukraine has no real agency. Thus they invent strange parallel realities where the Ukranian Army is run by idiots that ram their heads into a brick wall.

        Of course they have no choice, these losses are just what happens when you’re out numbered, out gunned, and still attempt an offensive. The high command in Kiev knows this. But they certainly aren’t going to tell the NAFO idiots that.

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          Right, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to reconcile their world view with what they actually see happening.

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          I’m still laughing at the summer beach party in Crimea posters they made last year. It’s beyond imagining that these people are still so invested and ardently believe total surrender of the RF is around the corner.

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        They will probably spin everything into the yet another stab in the back narration. There’s plenty of potential scapegoats in Ukraine and elswhere.

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          For sure, wasn’t there already a wapo article linking Ukraine and Nord Stream. I also saw the resurgence of acknowledgements that there is a nazi problem in Ukraine. If things go really poorly with the offensive, maybe the west will all of a sudden remember that Ukraine has a fascist regime.

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      They’ve all since “revised” expectations.

      Yesterday i seen a triumphant article on lemmy “Ukraine advances 1400m in Bakhmut” and map where the line is not even in Bakhmut. Sure sounded like 1915 but with copium clouds instead of chlorine.

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    You’d think FSU just won a championship with how fast and how far those goalposts moved lol. This is medical grade copium.

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      Gonna be amazing to see how they try to spin this in the coming weeks. I expect that Ukraine will manage to make some sort of a breakthrough eventually, and then we’ll have a wave of exuberance in the west. Then Russia will counterattack once the offensive burns itself out and then the copium will be flowing at record levels.

      The most interesting part to watch will be what happens once Ukraine burns through all the weapons and ammunition the west managed to cobble together for the offensive. This is basically the last throw.

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      No, it’s war porn. Look at this out of context sentence:

      “…superiority, and advancing into the defenders’ rear. This may be the only realistic option for Ukrainians to achieve a quick and deep…”

      F****** Smut!

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    Surely the western masses will forget all about this humiliation and be beating the drums again once they announce the sequel: the coming war on the PRC where ‘freedom and democracy’ will surely prevail… for the 3rd time

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      If one thing is clear at this point is that people in the west are unable to learn from their past actions. Every time western regimes decide to start a war the public quickly gets onboard believing that this will the one just war that the west is waging.

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    Lots of things to unpack in that first paragraph, I think that must be a new record