An awakening is happening in the imperial center. Half a century of progressively severe attacks against the working class; the construction of a war machine that preys on working class young people for recruitment; an intelligence apparatus that works to undermine racial, environmental, antiwar, and labor organizing efforts; a government that’s been willing to place us under the threat of nuclear war and
Mods, we shouldn’t allow PatSoc nonsense on here; Rainer Shea is an ally of PCUSA (PatSocs) and has recently made PatSoc talking points.
Also, he is a fan of Hasan Abi and Haz.
I think you may be misrepresenting his position and that of PCUSA. Rainer explicitly denounces the so-called “patsocs” in this article. He certainly seems to have a very negative opinion of this “Haz” and of the online “patsoc” phenomenon in general.
As for HasanAbi, i have no idea what Rainer’s opinion of him is, i have never read anything he wrote that mentions him. I am not fond of HasanAbi at all, for many different reasons, not least of which being the reactionary position he has taken on the Ukraine conflict and the ignorant nonsense he spouts about it on a daily basis to his gullible young audience, but if you were to denounce communists based on their fondness of this one streamer then you would also have to distance yourself from the entire Deprogram trio for instance. They recently had Hasan on and basically did nothing but praise him and offered absolutely no pushback on his more problematic takes.
PCUSA has been taken over by PatSocs, according to people that have left it, and is very anti-Indigenous.
I don’t know what the story is with that particular dispute but i urge you to read the article i linked in my previous reply. All of these splits, controversies and constant conflicts in leftist spaces benefit no one but Cointelpro.
Those cringy “patsocs” are irrelevant outside of their weird, niche online spaces. The answer to right-opportunism is not ultra-leftism, it is dialectical materialism and the proper application of Marxism-Leninism.
At the same time we need to stop being so obsessed with ideological purity that we turn against one of the few principled anti-imperialist communist groups in the US over one erroneous political line. Demanding perfection is a wrecker tactic.
What split are you referring to?
PCUSA literally has PatSocs in their organization.
Again, i don’t feel like this sort of thing is productive. I’m sure that PCUSA has its issues and people with problematic views. By the same token there are probably people on their side who will say that CPUSA has too many radlibs in their organization. The name calling by both sides can go on all day and what good does that do? That just stops any real work from getting done and in the end those who benefit are the feds whose wrecking work is being done for them.
We need to stop being so dogmatic if we want to have a chance to actually succeed in building a mass movement. That does not mean compromising our principles but it does mean knowing how to pick our battles. Which are the primary contradictions and which are secondary for the time being?
The PCUSA and CPUSA are not the end all be all either though.
Correct. These are just two examples. I personally don’t have much faith in the ability of any current communist party in the imperial core to be the vanguard of the revolution, but at least they’re doing stuff. Doing something is still better than doing nothing. And since my expectations of them are not particularly high i am also not too bothered by their various flaws. So long as they keep organizing, agitating, and educating instead of wasting their energy and time on fighting with other leftist groups.
That is what annoys me the most about Maoists and Trotskyists, it’s not that they are ideologically wrong (which they are) it’s that they act like wreckers and often seem to be more hostile to other communists than to the bourgeoisie and the reactionaries.
So goofy to try to get a party banned from posting cuz you support their detractors. just myob. everything you say about PCUSA is just shit stirring individualist nonsense that has nothing to do with the party.
They allow PatSocs within their ranks.
That’s enough for me.
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