• Might be useful if you’re in a “blue state” already, obviously she hasn’t even the slightest chance of winning. The paltry leftist/socdem parties in the US need to unify in some United Front, as it currently stands, you’re just dividing that tiny vote to even less.

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    I really like Jill stein personally because she outright refuses to demonize russia, and often speaks at rallies against US imperialism. For this she’s been branded as a pro-russian heretic in US media.

    The US green party is much more left than a lot of european ones, who are nearly all pro-NATO.

    Yes, electoralism will not save us, but she’s doing exactly what we expect even a revolutionary party to do: use the electoral platform to publicly agitate against war and imperialism.

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    People too often celebrate mid

    No mainstream US leftist is worth the energy they consume

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    I don’t know why I’d vote for Jill Stein when I can vote for PSL and get a better version of her platform with actual organisation behind it.

    I don’t know why Jill Stein doesn’t join PSL and get a better version of her platform with actual organisation behind it.

    I don’t like the US Greens and don’t trust them with power any more than I do democrats.

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    Even if you 100% agreed with her, the US Green Party is entirely useless. You can’t win the presidency without a party, and you can’t build a party by making hail Mary runs at the presidency. You have to start by squeaking out some wins in large municipalities or maybe the House, probably a blue bastion with a lazy and incompetent Dem machine. Get a Green AOC out there in the spotlight who can pull donors. Then move laterally, eating into Dem support wherever you can, and, hell, even take Republican money to undercut the Democratic party’s power base. Greens don’t do this - they throw all of their funding into the presidential race that they can never win. And it ought to make you think twice about supporting a party that never seems to care about winning.

    As it stands, Greens functionally only exist to be a spoiler for Democrats in the presidential race. I’m not saying that them spoiling the Dems is the issue - it’s that putting any faith in them to attempt their stated goals is a waste of energy.

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      Same basic argument I hear from US shitlib media 🤔

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        Sometimes water is wet, no matter who says it. I’m not your dad, I’m not telling you how to live your life - if you want to vote fo Stein as a protest vote I think that’s perfectly reasonable, even despite all of this. Just don’t be stupid enough to drink their Kool-aid. Remember, if a president tries to do anything meaningfully against the status quo in any useful way, the CIA takes them on a convertible trip through Dallas.