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    how about just a single communist lyric in his entire career, just one time ever… in his whole life… once

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      uh

      "I see no changes, wake up in the morning and I ask myself Is life worth livin’? Should I blast myself? I’m tired of bein’ poor and, even worse, I’m black My stomach hurts so I’m lookin’ for a purse to snatch Cops give a damn about a negro Pull the trigger, kill a nigga, he’s a hero Give the crack to the kids, who the hell cares? One less hungry mouth on the welfare First ship 'em dope and let 'em deal to brothers Give 'em guns, step back, watch 'em kill each other “It’s time to fight back, " that’s what Huey said Two shots in the dark, now Huey’s dead”

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        again the black panthers were not outright communists… anything about capitalism, references to marx, soviet russia, Mao? anything like that? just the words bourgeoisie or proletariat even once?

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            No the organization was not, you can read alot of bobby seal and cleaver and you can tell they were very outspoken against capitalism and promoted socialism, but the main org was about black liberation. They did not walk around waving hammsick logos calling themselves maoists

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                Martin Luther king also spoke against capitalism? would you also call him a communist?.. there were some billboards in alabama that said that

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                    so every single gay rights, womens rights, racial or indigenous theyre all secretly communists trying to take over the world? anyone the KKK calls a communist to you is a communist?.. Huey Newton would be another story, if this was a thread about him I would say yes, because he said words like capitalism and socialism all the time

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              You clearly need to educate yourself on the panthers. I suggest starting with Newton’s revolutionary suicide, and the book “black against empire”. The founders were explicitly Marxist-Leninists, read everything they could by Lenin, Marx, Stalin, Engels, supported Cuba, China (even sold mao’s red book to raise funds), visited China, etc.

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                they didn’t promote themselves as maoists especially not at first it was about black liberation, alot of people were surprised to learn including their own members they had such socialist views. The news declared them the black version of the KKK if you recall

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                  Do less talking, and more reading, from people who founded or were in the party, like what I suggested to you above. What the news said about the panthers is almost entirely false.

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                    ive actually read alot from them, obviously more than you, maybe go back and look at some old news reels of how the black panthers were portrayed in the media

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          do you define communists by their shared, arcane-to-the-average-person vernacular or the shit they actually say lol. i also am not getting the shade towards the black panthers. even if many members saw it more as a black liberation movement than an explicitly communist one, the leadership were all communists! Huey was a communist!

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            you might say this because you see communism as good thing, now say this to Cointelpro

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              genuinely don’t understand your point, but whatever. I ain’t telling shit to Cointelpro and one of the major reasons they targeted the panthers so heavily was for their revolutionary, explicitly communist platform, coupled with their black liberation ideology. idgi

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                no they desperately exaggerated their connections to communism to justify attacking them, as well as everyother black, feminist, gay etc rights group in the world

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        again tenuous at best, I could easily connect to the bible, or buddhism, I’m sure Osama is no fan of prostitution either

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        no? how about the hours and hours of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about the freemasons and illuminati that likely inspired his band mate to name himself after mussolini?

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            so a band member named mussolini, and a video showing he doesn’t even know how to pronounce stalins name isn’t proof… but saying something vague about rent is? just say you think hes a zombie vampire and quit this bullshit

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                he bought a book…and even forgot his name… like thats another straw, just grasping for straws… try pretending your j.edgar hoover and trying to have 2pac arrested for being a communist show me some proof even Hoover would accept

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                    they are still learning, I thought you’d like to see the segregated ghetto school that failed to teach poor tupac how to read, also known as one of the top public arts schools in America

                    https://www.bsfa.org/

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                    I feel like you don’t understand that calling yourself communist is putting yourself on a watchlist in the US. It’s illegal to become a citizen of the US if you’re a communist