again the black panthers were not outright communists… anything about capitalism, references to marx, soviet russia, Mao? anything like that? just the words bourgeoisie or proletariat even once?
No the organization was not, you can read alot of bobby seal and cleaver and you can tell they were very outspoken against capitalism and promoted socialism, but the main org was about black liberation. They did not walk around waving hammsick logos calling themselves maoists
You clearly need to educate yourself on the panthers. I suggest starting with Newton’s revolutionary suicide, and the book “black against empire”. The founders were explicitly Marxist-Leninists, read everything they could by Lenin, Marx, Stalin, Engels, supported Cuba, China (even sold mao’s red book to raise funds), visited China, etc.
they didn’t promote themselves as maoists especially not at first it was about black liberation, alot of people were surprised to learn including their own members they had such socialist views. The news declared them the black version of the KKK if you recall
Do less talking, and more reading, from people who founded or were in the party, like what I suggested to you above. What the news said about the panthers is almost entirely false.
ive actually read alot from them, obviously more than you, maybe go back and look at some old news reels of how the black panthers were portrayed in the media
you just seem to be hellbent on twisting my words, youre like all angry and raging about yet another thing I never said, so im just gonna ignore you and wait for you to start criticizing the next thing the voices in your head are telling you im saying
so every single gay rights, womens rights, racial or indigenous theyre all secretly communists trying to take over the world? anyone the KKK calls a communist to you is a communist?.. Huey Newton would be another story, if this was a thread about him I would say yes, because he said words like capitalism and socialism all the time
thats exactly what this is, its batshit neo nazi style conspiracy theories… I’m being nice because I know you’re all suburban white people who never listen to rap, but push all you want im not budging
do you define communists by their shared, arcane-to-the-average-person vernacular or the shit they actually say lol. i also am not getting the shade towards the black panthers. even if many members saw it more as a black liberation movement than an explicitly communist one, the leadership were all communists! Huey was a communist!
genuinely don’t understand your point, but whatever. I ain’t telling shit to Cointelpro and one of the major reasons they targeted the panthers so heavily was for their revolutionary, explicitly communist platform, coupled with their black liberation ideology. idgi
no they desperately exaggerated their connections to communism to justify attacking them, as well as everyother black, feminist, gay etc rights group in the world
again the black panthers were not outright communists… anything about capitalism, references to marx, soviet russia, Mao? anything like that? just the words bourgeoisie or proletariat even once?
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No the organization was not, you can read alot of bobby seal and cleaver and you can tell they were very outspoken against capitalism and promoted socialism, but the main org was about black liberation. They did not walk around waving hammsick logos calling themselves maoists
You clearly need to educate yourself on the panthers. I suggest starting with Newton’s revolutionary suicide, and the book “black against empire”. The founders were explicitly Marxist-Leninists, read everything they could by Lenin, Marx, Stalin, Engels, supported Cuba, China (even sold mao’s red book to raise funds), visited China, etc.
they didn’t promote themselves as maoists especially not at first it was about black liberation, alot of people were surprised to learn including their own members they had such socialist views. The news declared them the black version of the KKK if you recall
Do less talking, and more reading, from people who founded or were in the party, like what I suggested to you above. What the news said about the panthers is almost entirely false.
ive actually read alot from them, obviously more than you, maybe go back and look at some old news reels of how the black panthers were portrayed in the media
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you just seem to be hellbent on twisting my words, youre like all angry and raging about yet another thing I never said, so im just gonna ignore you and wait for you to start criticizing the next thing the voices in your head are telling you im saying
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Martin Luther king also spoke against capitalism? would you also call him a communist?.. there were some billboards in alabama that said that
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so every single gay rights, womens rights, racial or indigenous theyre all secretly communists trying to take over the world? anyone the KKK calls a communist to you is a communist?.. Huey Newton would be another story, if this was a thread about him I would say yes, because he said words like capitalism and socialism all the time
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thats exactly what this is, its batshit neo nazi style conspiracy theories… I’m being nice because I know you’re all suburban white people who never listen to rap, but push all you want im not budging
do you define communists by their shared, arcane-to-the-average-person vernacular or the shit they actually say lol. i also am not getting the shade towards the black panthers. even if many members saw it more as a black liberation movement than an explicitly communist one, the leadership were all communists! Huey was a communist!
you might say this because you see communism as good thing, now say this to Cointelpro
genuinely don’t understand your point, but whatever. I ain’t telling shit to Cointelpro and one of the major reasons they targeted the panthers so heavily was for their revolutionary, explicitly communist platform, coupled with their black liberation ideology. idgi
no they desperately exaggerated their connections to communism to justify attacking them, as well as everyother black, feminist, gay etc rights group in the world