In the past week as I’ve been trying to understand the move-countermove + effect/knock-on if the conflict in Ukraine, I found myself getting more and more worried about possibility of the US nuking China as a “final solution”. Does anyone think that scenario has any potential to be realized?
Even if the US were willing to sacrifice global manufacturing capacity by taking extreme action against China (which I don’t think is entirely outside the realm of possibility–a sick animal is the most dangerous when it feels cornered) they would have to rely on other nations to pick up the slack in production in the aftermath…the majority of which are either pretty friendly with China, or neutral, and would probably turn their backs on the US and its allies entirely. Of course, the US could attempt to coerce them with military power, but given what would probably happen to the US if they attacked China, I’m not sure there’d be much left to bully other countries with tbh.
I wouldn’t worry too much. The CPC are obviously aware of this possibility. It’s going to be a factor in their decision making.
The thing to remember is that China is control of its actions; it controls its capitalists. The US, on the other hand, is controlled by capitalists. That’s why US foreign policy is about enriching its capitalists and US domestic policy is about protecting its capitalists from the workers they exploit.
How does that relate to the threat of US nukes? While Western capitalists see China as a threat to their free reign, it’s also a part of the global economy they make money off of.
The POTUS might control the nuclear football but his masters decide if and when he uses it. And while proxy wars are good for capitalists, nuclear war isn’t.
Even without manufacturing, it’s also a massive and growing consumer market while spending power in the West decreases.
But if you’re worrying about the economic decoupling having implications, I still wouldn’t. We’re already seeing that China has eclipsed the US in terms of missile delivery technology and I wouldn’t be surprised if their willingness to decouple is paired with knowing that they have the US beat in missile defence, too.
Honestly communism has already won, the only thing that can prevent the world wide expansion is the climate crisis, if we can get over it, we’re good.
In the past week as I’ve been trying to understand the move-countermove + effect/knock-on if the conflict in Ukraine, I found myself getting more and more worried about possibility of the US nuking China as a “final solution”. Does anyone think that scenario has any potential to be realized?
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Even if the US were willing to sacrifice global manufacturing capacity by taking extreme action against China (which I don’t think is entirely outside the realm of possibility–a sick animal is the most dangerous when it feels cornered) they would have to rely on other nations to pick up the slack in production in the aftermath…the majority of which are either pretty friendly with China, or neutral, and would probably turn their backs on the US and its allies entirely. Of course, the US could attempt to coerce them with military power, but given what would probably happen to the US if they attacked China, I’m not sure there’d be much left to bully other countries with tbh.
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I wouldn’t worry too much. The CPC are obviously aware of this possibility. It’s going to be a factor in their decision making.
The thing to remember is that China is control of its actions; it controls its capitalists. The US, on the other hand, is controlled by capitalists. That’s why US foreign policy is about enriching its capitalists and US domestic policy is about protecting its capitalists from the workers they exploit.
How does that relate to the threat of US nukes? While Western capitalists see China as a threat to their free reign, it’s also a part of the global economy they make money off of.
The POTUS might control the nuclear football but his masters decide if and when he uses it. And while proxy wars are good for capitalists, nuclear war isn’t.
OH right, nuking China would nuke manufacturing. So we need to get worried when manufacturing becomes less dependent on China. Good insight.
Even without manufacturing, it’s also a massive and growing consumer market while spending power in the West decreases.
But if you’re worrying about the economic decoupling having implications, I still wouldn’t. We’re already seeing that China has eclipsed the US in terms of missile delivery technology and I wouldn’t be surprised if their willingness to decouple is paired with knowing that they have the US beat in missile defence, too.