The amount of Nazi sympathizing I see among NATO bootlickers is disgusting.
I’ve said before that the crimes of nazis will be piled onto Hitler and leave the rest unscathed before. I just didn’t expect it to be so soon. “We have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it.” - Zhukov
Well they’re only a few years away from “Hitler was right”. Most liberals I mean. The hardcore NAFOid losers are basically already there.
NAFO and liberals
“I’m not saying Hitler was perfect, but he did kill millions of evil Russian orcs, so he can’t be that bad…”, western libs in like a month, tops.
get in losersToo gross, think of the workers that have to clean up that mess. This is way more efficient:
We need permanent storage for nuclear waste in deep mine shafts that are closed with a thick layer of concrete. Why not deposit Nazis down there as well?
“There is nothing of value here. This is a place of danger, and the danger is to the body and to the sense of faith in humanity.”
“There’s a lot of cringe nazi frog cartoons down here”
Now we are talking about pits
I was about to suggest the crushing could be done in a barren field as a soil amendment, but then it would probably be better to do the processing with a chipper/shredder, which would still be labor-intensive.
Maybe hugelkulture instead?
Yes yes fascist corpses would make an excellent layer in the garden bed, all that calcium is superb for tomatoes
How long does it take for the
to dissipate? What’s the half life?Ahh shit well unfortunately id estimate at least 3-4 human lifetimes
a chipper/shredder
hey i’ve seen Fargo
I think you’re cooking with this hugelkukture idea, it would make for some very thematic new forests. Plus who knows, it might deter some
types to know that picking up a gun means being turned into a tree.
I would volunteer for the viscera clean up detail. I can work a pressure washer just fine.
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I agree, but we shouldn’t scoff at or mock people just because they hold different views from us. Remember to keep the tone polite and respect those who want to make a little ceremony of it, even if you don’t agree!
we shouldn’t scoff at or mock people just because they hold different views from us. Remember to keep the tone polite
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respect those who want to make a little ceremony of it, even if you don’t agree!
Inside of you are two antifascists. One is a calm and collected pragmatist, the other is a howling artistic justice berserker. Both are correct.
Me: effortposts about why mercy and rehabilitation are the better path because the alternative is making a literal ocean of blood that regardless of how justified it may or may not have been will make future generations look back in horror and develop counter-revolutionary tendencies simply because following in your footsteps turns their stomach.
Also me: “give me a Death Note and I’ll make Stalin look like Sankara”
While it’s true that killing capitalists is insufficient to end capitalism, it would be extremely funny if all the billionaires starting dying very public, very ironic deaths relating to their wealth and how they got it.
I did dream once of a billionaire being on his private island and people just decided to ignore him and not come back. Still think there is some poetic justice to that.
Disclaimer: I might’ve heard too much about uninhabited islands and “consent” before.
:czolgosz-glowing:
Chapos can have a little ceremony as a treat
Just one! No more than that.
If you do it right, you only need one
Seems like a perfect waste of an opportunity for a big ceremony.
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Scratching a liberal is just a phase change for Hitler particles. Liberals normally exist as low-energy Hitler particle solids, but rapidly sublimate into a high-energy plasma after mentioning Russia or China.
tankie man
not looking to see if any of our beautiful posters had the same idea
But I want it to be ceremonious
Really looking forward to this year’s fash crushing festival
The recent Patreon episode of Pod Damn America had me grumbling. I know they’re succdems, but you’d think they would know this wouldn’t be the time to call out the Soviets on shit that they either did or was blown out of proportion by U.S./Nazi propagandists.
is that pod actually any good? i tried it early on but it was nonspecifically cringe and just not very funny to me.
I think they’re funny, but they’re not the kind of podcast to make me burst into laughter in the middle of doing dishes. Most people are better off just listening to Chapo.
Honestly I disagree, though more so with what this entails and how it was said than with what was said.
There are good faith explanations for some statements which appear to enable or excuse Nazis. Approaching those statements with hostility, not thinking of why the person made the statement, not only makes the person making the statement less likely to understand why what they did/said is wrong (as if they may perceive your hostility as an attack on them, therefore becoming defensive), but also makes it easier for those who intentionally excuse, enable or are (neo)Nazis / other reactionaries, to dismiss those against them, painting them as dramatic and appealing to more people
As an example take the statement
Trans women have an advantage in sports over a cis woman
While this statement is most definetly transphobic, a person who said this may not be:
- men are on average stronger than women
- trans women did have a body of a man in the past
- the strength may not have gone away
- this person who I feel like knows what they are talking about says this is true
is a perfectly reasonable way to come to this conclusion. It is of course false, but calling that person transphobic will only give fuel to those who do actually hate trans people and want them erased from existing to paint those who support trans people as delusional. Saying that feminizing hormone therapy erases any advantage in muscle strength is more likely to actually make them back off.
TL;DR: being hostile to those who you think may support reactionaries/(neo)Nazis is more likely to make them further support them than stop doing so.
So instead of a solution to the Nazi problem you suggest to do like the Nazis and commit genocide.
You’re just as whack as the Nazis you hate
hey everyone, get a load of this nerd’s edit:
Edit: Damn, there’s a lot of borderline nazis here. You can keep telling yourself that your path is righteous but it does not change the fact you are all horrible people.
I have a friend that is deep in to the alt-right conspiracy territory and the one thing that keeps him from going all out extremist is me and some other friends. At heart he is a good person that is deeply misled and troubled and that is why it is important we keep in him our circle, engage in dialogue with him and challenge his views.
bawww my fash friend is really a good person i swear (and please don’t point out that i’m more similar to him than i realise)!
also i like challenging views, which is why I immediately call those who oppose fascists “literal nazis”shut the fuck up, loser
Damn, there’s a lot of borderline nazis here.
Everyone the liberal doesn’t like is a nazi, except nazis that the liberal likes, those are Ukranian heroes
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Communists saying they want to kill Nazis? That’s borderline Nazism!
The “14th Baby Torturing Division of the Jew Killers (1st Aryan-Galician)”? Oh, those guys were just fighting against Stalin to build the Ukrainian homeland bro…
One would think that running over Nazis in a tank would have probably prevented his friend from being radicalized?
When his friend does a hate crime they’ll be the ones saying “no one saw it coming”
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lol, now I want to set up a psychic studio to milk
s by telling them their loved ones have special message for them, it’s “live. laugh. love.” or some other platitude and when they exit the seance room it’s just a gift shop that sells those same platitude word art paintings.
Lol I hope this guy’s friend is run over by a tank
“I’m too much of a coward to cut ties with this nazi I call a friend”
While I don’t know what the original user said besides your quote, working to rehabilitate and convince people despite the most awful is a laudable goal.
How is someone who is against the thesis of something the very thing they are against? The only thing I can think of is the Nietzsche quote about the abyss. It seems like a form of dialectics? Like there’s an understanding of a contradiction of sorts and then some essential aspect is filtered out and that’s applied to everything in the situation. Then some small exclusion is made for whatever the specific characteristics are that line up with the conditions the person has is proposed (in this case their friend’s circumstances). I think what I dislike is that there might not be further investigation and attempts to broaden discussion are met with some hostility.
It’s not as though I want to make things unpleasant for others, but it seems like it’s frequently taken that way :/
Trying to change people’s mind’s based on long-standing relationships is literally the only way it’s worth anyone’s time, really. It’s possible. But someone who doesn’t the difference between that and letting Nazis onto your pseudoanonymous Internet forum is very likely to also miss the difference between deradicalizing a friend and excusing a friend’s bigotry for the sake of not losing said friend.
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It’s sad to have to realize that “good” (whatever that means) people can become nazis too, and it’s almost like you have to mourn them before they die. But they have died, that person has allowed their hueristic to be replaced with an exterminationist one, and in doing so discarded what made them worthy of mourning in the first place. I had high school friends who became nqzis and tough shit, you have to write them off. Ironically, I look at fascists the way they portray rioters: as zombies. But where they see zombies as nothing but metatextual human meat targets, I focus on what they actually are, in the lore of all those stories. They’re the final-stage victims of a brainworm infestation, their actions are dictated by a mindless hate fashioned by a mindlessly atavistic un-sapience. They have made themselves human cnidocytes, individual stinging cells in the body of the mad god Capital, and will go on stinging and poisoning forever until they’re stopped. Hopefully whatever’s left of the person they used to be in there can glean some measure of calm, perspective and understanding in the quiet moments after someone acts in defense of the rest of humanity, but thats’s about the best you can realistically hope for them.
There’s some legitimate dumb guys out there who have no idea what’s going on that think nazism is cool, but idk about “good”
Exactly, it usually just means “nice to me personally”. But i also do mourn the dumb guys. In another life, etc
my response to that edit:
By all means, work on the individuals in your life, but we won’t always have the luxury to treat them as therapy cases. When nazis start marching, there’s no pause button where you can stop time and deradicalize those people before they hurt innocents.
Bigotry is also hard to cure. It self-reinforces. It diminishes empathy and creates negative confirmation biases, which then makes it hard to see past stereotypes. This is even more intense for well-off white people, because then classism and class narcissism play into it too.
Most of the time you’re not going to talk someone out of their bigotry. The only real cure is exposure, taking time to get to know people from the group they hate, and even then bigots are liable to compartmentalize about how “they’re one of the good ones.”
We don’t always have time for that. Sometimes the only solutions are violence and intimidation.
You’re exactly the kind of childish, credulous fuck the nazis love
“Genocide on nazis” jesus christ, wont someone think of the poor genociders??
You should shut the fuck up and stop embarassing yourself
Straight from the book of Dril 69:420
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One of my favourite new emojis
Killing Nazis is good and solves the problem of Nazis existing, actually.
fuck off nazi scum, follow your leader and make the world a better place you mongrel
wont someone please think of the poor ANABs! (assigned nazi at birth) 😔
It is easy to not be a Nazi. Socialists do a multi faceted way in response to them though.
- Force, make it so that Nazis can’t retain power, this includes lawful sentences,
as well as not enabling Nazi speech and setting an end to Nazi bars. - Limit people’s exposure with Nazi propaganda and teach instead about how Nazism works and why it is bad, teach about collective structures and how to resist rightists.
- Destroy the material base for Nazism.
People like you are only enabling Nazis and even Karl Popper would slap you in your face. All those steps are securing the health of marginalized people. This is very different to what Nazis do.
- Force, make it so that Nazis can’t retain power, this includes lawful sentences,
Ok Adolf
Killing Nazis has been the only real solution to the Nazi problem since their inception.
Call me a smart aleck, but abolishing capitalism was really the only effective way to prevent fascism.
Have a postmortem
do you think that the allies in WW2 were just as bad as nazi germany for killing nazis in order to end the holocaust?
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looks like you’re first in line, you nazi fuck
Hand-wringing, but your username is referencing an automatic weapon being shot. Wtf?
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Fix your words, Jack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g09bOoPGdTE
A Nazi can choose to not be a Nazi and be spared from defensive, anti fascist, violence. But the people who need protection from offensive Nazi violence: people of color, queer people, Jewish people, etc. Can not change the immutable characteristics that make them “undesirable” and therefore worthy of extermination by Nazis.
All Violence is not equivalent. You punching me in the face is not the same thing as me punching back in retaliation.
in retaliation
Okay, but what if the Nazi is sticking his little finger directly in front of your eye and chanting “I’m not touching you! I’m not touching you!” while his buddies creep up behind you with a big Holocaust themed butterfly net. Surely, then, you have no right to punch the Nazi, because he hasn’t actually done anything wrong yet.
Also, what if the Nazi is a cop, and then the cops investigate the cops and they determine that the cops have done nothing wrong. Then, clearly, the Nazi hasn’t done anything wrong and your hands are tied, right?
You are the apathetic bystander that gives rise to fascism in the name of “civility.”
How is it apathetic to not distance myself from my friend and keep debating with him that his worldview is completely wrong? How will he every change his view if no one talks to him?
I don’t care about your friend. If you want to be a lecturer in a re-education camp that’s all fine with me, but what you’re advocating for is dangerous. You’re choosing to obstruct the most successful method of dealing with fascism of all time because of an edge case. I can’t tell you if your friend can be reasoned out of fascism, but I can tell you that if you don’t hurry up he’s either going to hurt somebody or somebody will deal with him for you.
We do not and never will have handlers for every single fascist on the planet. If you don’t have actual solutions you should get out of the way before someone thinks you’re more than a sympathizer.
