“Ronald Reagan was a freedom fighter in terms of supporting our Jewish bros & sis in the Soviet Union & opposing vicious forms of communism” - West

I’m not USian, so take this with a tablespoon of salt. My understanding is that he had some awful takes about AES countries in the past (seems to be better in some respects now, but I’m not sure to what extent). He seems like the least bad candidate by a wide margin (although that’s not saying much), but I’d still be cautious about investing too much effort into electoralism – of course, an anti-imperialist is not going to be allowed to win, so it all depends on whether the movement surrounding him can be used to prepare for revolution, e.g. if it’s going to work with indigenous movements, the African People’s Socialist Party, etc.

Critical support for him, he has no chance but if he brings some people to the left it will be worth it.

He is not a socialist or a principled anti-imperialist and he is definitely not going to win, but he has the potential to split the Democrat vote enough that they could lose which would piss off a lot of liberals and create a lot of chaos in the upper ranks of the empire. That is a good thing for us as anti-imperialists. So yeah, critical support for him, i think leftist orgs definitely should champion him under the condition that when/if he drops out they do not endorse that his supporters switch their vote to the Democrats. Voting third party is good for destabilizing the control that the entrenched neolib/neocon duopoly has in the US.

It’s a distraction. He’s not a Marxist, he’s not meaningfully anti-imperialist in rhetoric (equivocates on Ukraine for instance I believe, not pro-China, might even call it a dictatorship or oppressive, can’t remember; being pro-Cuba doesn’t count, Obama lowered some sanctions on them after all and although it upsets some gusanos in Florida it’s not a key piece of US hegemony like Russia/China are) and he won’t get a platform to spread anything positive on. If he won (he won’t) he’d be blackmailed, threatened or killed. The only point of participating in bourgeois elections is with a vanguard party so you can raise awareness of its platform, our rhetoric, our points, our program.

As he is not a Marxist, as he is a IMO an OP or at least knows the limits of what he can say without getting killed and adheres to them and as he is ideologically a liberal I don’t see him as that useful.

I have to be honest in that I see Trump is being the most destabilizing force in the upcoming election. Is he anti-imperialist and principled? No. Is he Marxist? Obviously not. Is he a beastly ghastly piece of shit guilty of all the usual crimes and more? Obviously. But he does stand a chance of winning and actually taking power and his winning will upset an awful lot of imperialists in the Democratic party halls of power and kick them out (I would love to see Victoria Nuland and Jake Sullivan kicked out as they’re either competent when it comes to prolonging the empire’s life or dangerously deranged enough to get us into a nuclear war). Will they be replaced by neo-cons? Doubtless in many cases but shifting leaders in the middle of things is like replacing a director after shooting has begun, it can’t help but be at least a little disruptive. Will it entirely change the program? No. Certain things are advanced by organs of the state that aren’t elected and are beyond accountability since killing Kennedy. The China show-down will continue apace, he won’t make peace there. But what he will do is anger allies, hurt the US image badly, chaotic and violent shifts in policy like perhaps pulling out of things with Russia or withholding enough support to tip the balance leaving the Europeans feeling upset and whiplashed and the Ukrainians feeling stabbed in the back as well as giving China another example to whisper to the separatists on Taiwan about why they shouldn’t trust the US.

I’m not saying campaign for Trump (don’t, organize) but well I wouldn’t be upset if he won. We’ve already lost abortion rights, the march of the reactionary post-cold-war claw-back against the people continues under Biden unabated, doubtless he’ll push that more but it would happen anyways and Biden is seen as stable whereas Trump getting back into power would traumatize a lot of liberals, do a lot of damage to the US image, further reinforce the idea it is a declining unserious power and set liberals and reactionaries in the US at each others throats ever more which is where I want them, not together united to impose imperialism and doom on the world and extend the reign of the US. I’d rather have that than more Biden and civility liberalism nonsense while we lose our rights, our futures, and while he re-organizing the US to try and preserve its life longer in an effective way. Trump is a monkey with a wrench. I want to see what he does. He won’t bring the whole thing done but he’ll mess things up and at key moments when the world is struggling for multi-polarity, we need someone who messes things up, who makes foolish moves because his gut tells him to. We need someone who hesitates and needs it explained to him 3 times because he isn’t that smart.

So no I don’t support Trump but he might be the least bad option (in a field of abominations and terrible choices) out there in terms of practical effects (ideologically obviously we couldn’t disagree more, though his isolationism is useful for helping ease the empire into its grave more peacefully). One more thing, liberals stopped organizing to help minorities and fight back against moves of government as soon as Biden got into office, they all decided he’d take care of things. With Trump back some of them might get a little more militant. You want abortion rights back? You want student debt relief? You’re not going to get it with liberals sleepily saying Biden will get to it or at least he’s not Trump.

It’s not like elections change anything, but at least he’s a presidential candidate acknowledging the Indigenous population and their demands as well as actual anti-racist policies like reparations. He has some cringe takes and will never get elected, but elections in the USA are just excuses to show ads and at least he’ll show some different ones. I’m pretty sure whoever is the Republican will win the election unless Biden dies of a heart attack and lets somebody at least halfway popular run instead, not that it’d change much. He did an interview on Red Nation if anybody wants to hear what he has to say straight from his mouth without having to trudge through newscorps. Don’t expect much though.

I’m positive about his figure but knowing bourgeois Democracy he will 100% lose.

Aside from that, his campaign will be a net positive, I don’t have a crystal ball (for now) but I hope we’ll see a Bernie campaign 2.0,with a lot more people pushed to the left. He’s a lot cooler than Bernie too. So that could help radicalizing people more to the left than simply “let’s curb the excesses of corporatism” and more towards “let’s find a better system period”

I have many disagreements with him, but he is the best candidate in the current election by a mile. I don’t think I will be a US citizen anymore by the time (assuming the US finally lets me renounce) the election rolls around, but if I were I would probably throw my vote his way.

There’s no chance he would win, even though he is far to my right he is far too left for the establishment to tolerate. If nothing else, I hope he represents a “gateway” to people getting more interested in actual left thought. People realizing there is a choice outside the two colors of the same party. I know a few comrades who started as liberal Bernie supporters, and then sprinted left from there. They would never support somebody as rightwing as Sanders now, but he was at least the first step for them.

I ultimately don’t think the US can vote itself into an actual socialist government anyway, that would take an actual revolution.

Not great but infinitely better than literally any other Democrat running. He doesn’t have a lot of PR and that’s what wins elections. He’s far from perfect but I’ll continue to compare him against the Democrats, and he’ll always come off looking better. Idk if I’ll even vote tbh but if I do I guess I would vote for him maybe

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Critical support for him. Third parties reaching 5% nation wide would get funding and could further fracture the empire’s politics

Other than that just keep helping out CPUSA

Hilarious

He might not be one of us, but he is about as far left as you’re allowed to go in the US, and he’s actually getting a bit of attention.

He is overall garbage and I won’t be voting for Democrats in the first place. I’ll find some niche 3rd-party candidate to support instead.

Jill Stein is running his campaign… Yes, the same 2016 presidential spoiler candidate that ate up just enough votes in key battleground states to tip that election to trump. That probably says a lot of what you need to know.

West SAYS something interesting half the time, but I don’t believe he’d actually get anything done in office.