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how can someone get to your big age and still like the usa? how can someone get to your big age and still defend usa military? how can someone get to your big age and uncritically and stupidly repeat anti-prc propaganda?
it’s so funny watching self-proclaimed leftists come here and say ‘why do you like PRC who just killed five million oygors? why do you not venerate usa as pillar of good?’ how the fuck are you, at your big age, still saying the term western civilization without the urge to go die? i piss on your grave
i’m not going to fucking entertain the way you give benefit of doubt to USA. that is not charity, or being kind. that is evil because you clearly don’t see people in periphery as people. that is the fact of the matter all EU NATO USA lovers have to accept. then, you invoke fake ass allegations with no evidence produced by USA on poor little uyghurs… ignoring that mostly ethnic minorities in many of your EVIL ASIATIC COUNTRIES fare much better than ethnic minorities in your shithole country, huh? who do you pick? uyghurs, who were reeducated out of wahhabism, or taiwanese descendants of useless GMD, and you represent them as ‘FreeDum Fighters Emancipating Themselves’ in your shitty little metaphor, you liken these situationsto colonized people—those FreeDum fighters are wahhabist terrorists or imperialists, youre just so fucking illiterate and masturbatory! and you cannot accept that because when you hear stories like this in USA, it’s often opposite, where the ‘islamist terrorists’ are in the right! you can’t accept your country is shithole empire, you bootlick, uselessly trying to scramble for some equivalence so that you are not a complicit wad of shit, so quite frankly, if you died tomorrow, i would have hard time caring!
‘yyouuu tankies aree sooo unfairrrr waauuuhhhh oouhhh you love PRC that has just buuiltt roaaddss and traiinns and participated in traaaaadeeeee sniffle sniffle oouuhhhh theyre just as badd as united states of amerikkkaaaa, built on blood of colonized people, knee on the neck of eveeerryoneee, waauuhhh oohhh why wont you trussttt themmmmm waaauauuhhhhh wahhhhh wahhhh wahhh wahhh im a big babyyyy, come entertain my positions that have no basis in reality, wauuuuhhhh whhyyyy do you hate my imperialist lapdogs’ <- guy who will refuse any offer at conversation because he thinks trading with africa = imperialism in every single situation and also he wants you to validate his position that usamerikkkan soldiers are just wee little boouuyyyysss who dont everrrr seek to harm citizens, it’s just a fewww bad appless wauuuhhh
positive feedback loop: a life of unending usamerican chauvinism and claimed ignorance/obliviousness, backdropped by the history of their unspeakable violence, only makes you hate every yankee, so you want to say hyperbolic statement like ‘inshallah, death visits every yankee.’ then yankees react to this with their claimed ignorance/obliviousness that ‘we are not so bad, why do you tankies seriously want genocide upon us? why is this the crux of your ideology, the synecdoche i will assume represents all of your views, not just an expression of exhaustion and rage? matter of fact, our american army is the most moral army in the world. matter of fact, your asiatic hordes have killed a million muslims (we don’t care when muslims die, if these muslims are anti-american ghouls like ayatollah, backwards apes), we must send glorious american army in to kill you, we are so pure and moral, we have never killed one of you brown people, if we did, you certainly deserved it, savage, barbarian, backwards orc.’ so, of course, you want to say hyperbolic statement, such as ‘inshallah, death visits every yankee’. rinse and repeat
I wish yanks would just shut up. Shutting up when you can’t do anything better is praxis. The burgerreich is participating in a genocide, kidnapping heads of state and pushing us closer and closer to WW3 just as my life was somewhat stabilizing for the first time in years and I’m not even allowed a little Death to Amerikkka as a treat without getting scolded by some western “leftist”.
I think you should be allowed to say and do whatever you want, but are you going to resent me if I don’t want to threaten anyone? I thought the point of marxism was to change the world and milking liberals for their assets seems far more practical during the age of asymmetrical warfare. Even my presence alone makes them nauseous, because they’re unable to trust any of their friends constantly being paranoid that it might just be another impostor. Leading your enemy yourself can be pretty useful too.
me personally i also am of the belief being constantly combative and hostile is counterproductive obviously, but i was just emotionally venting about the experience of being in usually anti-usa spaces already and doing emotional complaints against usa (which i believe is entirely valid) and then being responded to with frustrating denialism. this is less about actual discourse and exchange of ideas, but even then, sometimes compromise cannot be made and you cannot change their minds. but i think we should of course try our best in any situation where it seems as if we can. i dont know if you thought i was saying this in my comment or if you understood, but yeah i just wanted to add in case the nuance seemed missing from my original comment
That’s alright I wouldn’t blame victims for crying out in pain. Especially when they’re often systematically denied the opportunity to learn how to “best” conduct themselves. And then we end up treating victims like circus participants, only helping out the best performers, it’s inhumane. I hate having to tolerate this happening, it’s like being forced to have 8 hours sleep to recharge proper, when there’s issues happening right now. I haven’t found a correct answer of how to balance these things.
But I do think we should side with the victims whenever someone is crying about them saying mean words, lazy boned liberals who don’t ask why people are mad should be relentlessly educated. And I think the issue here is we don’t see each other and we don’t know who we’re talking to exactly. I’m really sorry for assuming anything. I should have made clear my problem is with the radical imperial core people, who love to throw out words that they think makes them sound like cannons, but they sound like a kazoo. The victim should speak up for themselves and yes absolutely we should defend them, but a lot of people who throw out big slogans haven’t done to work to earn the right to.
🫵 You WILL have hope, comrade.
i appreciate this. i will
Thank you comrade! 🫡
If you insist. But I won’t like it. Humph!
(Silliness aside, I appreciate your persistent weekly hope message.)
Kinda crazy that both faces of Iran in western media (Araghchi and Marandi) are both phd and both fought in the iranian revolution. Both came from relatively wealthy families too and still served, Marandi literally born and raised in the US but went back to Iran when duty called.
Could you imagine the current iranian diaspora going back to Iran to fight for “freedom”?
I can’t imagine the 99% of Iranian diaspora even going back to rebuild. They are out there cheering and “protesting” but if they get what want it wont change their life at all. They will still have to go to their shitty job and pay their mortgage. All that will happen is that they wont have any hate to focus on to help them accept the shitty conditions of life under capitalism.
I wish there was a way without destroying Iran for them to feel the crushing weight of the false hope they built their lives around turning into anticlimactic weight around their neck. Instead most of them will be more bitter and insufferable than before when this war is over.
Marandi was a voluntary child soldier on top of that.
First time, I ever see a proposal with a Lenin bust behind
I’ll make sure it’s not the last one 🫡
applying to jobs i would have been overqualified for 5 years ago because that’s all that remains that i haven’t applied to and then getting a quick “thanks for applying but we’re going to move forward with more qualified candidates”
sweet economy we got going on
I’ve had two years of this now in my field, super fun to deal with especially when I have to do presentations and mock-reports for the interviews too.
Same here… like what the fuck do you mean you’ve found a more qualified candidate?! Send Mr their goddamn Linkdin or some shkt because I don’t believe you.
I’m so sick of business executives and middle managers. I have to work with many of these people and it drives me insane. Their jobs consist of saying things like, “we need to monitor this closely”, that’s basically their whole job.
Like no shit I’m going to monitor this, that’s all I get paid to do.
when i woke up this morning, i weighed myself just on a whim… 180.1 lbs… not bad.
then i emptied by bowels and bladder for the past 20 minutes
weighed myself afterward, 181.3 lbs.
goddamn digital scales
They kinda suck, but you have to make sure to place them on a completely flat and horizontal surface, and use it in the same place every time. Keeps the variance down a bit.
A bumblebee queen seems to have taken an interest in a vacant bird house on my balcony. Which is a great sight to see. For two years I have been spending a lot of effort to create a place for insect wildlife on my balcony by planting native plants, making shelter, etc. It has turned an ugly city balcony into a place where insects actually visits. (Bumble)bees, solitary wasps, spiders, beetles and other critters have found their way to my balcony last year and this year I have even more beneficial plants, so I can’t wait to see what happens.
According to all known laws of bourgeois ecology, comrade SlayGuevara should be not be able to save the environment.
Their tiny little balcony should be unable to house the necessary components to provide a home for the various wild life.
Comrade SlayGuevara saves the environment anyway, because Communists don’t care what the bourgeoisie think is impossible.
Sweet
That is the cutest thing comrade! Any picture you’re ok with sharing? /Nopressure
Can’t find a picture that will not doxx me lol but hopefully in the future I can provide updates
I figured, keep safe comrade. I’m glad things are going well in your little balcony habitat ^^
seriously, as you grow up, your faith and respect for stalin triples. seeing all these potential ops online and how you must treat them with caution regardless if you can actually verify with 100% certainty that they are government ops… josef stalin, we miss you so bad
yes it’s stupid and juvenile, irrelevant, but i follow baseball (of all sports. well of course i’ll watch world cup but my country is irrelevant when it comes to sports), and fuck my stupid chungus life. why are you two arguing. we’re supposed to win it this year. what the fuck. all over the WBC that lets ‘israel’ play
yes they do have to go to a gulag expeditiously all of them (randy especially. very especially) but oh my god please we can’t have this
Lol tbh i think he is going to be a bust this year.
if u mean randy probably i can see it esp if this continues but if u mean julio please no😔 just bc he’s my favorite. please i need these stupid career athletes many of them multimillionaires with terrible political leanings to win this time
stop fucking saying you’re going to the rays be serious please god randy. you are a gusano yes but apart from that this is ruining our chances. please god randy. randy please. cal you too. stop this madness.
julio rodriguez PLWASE step in
7 weeks before the season too. oh my god. my funny little pasttime observance…
and also they fucked randy’s shit up it’s way too high
If news broke out that BenGvir indeed got got, that would be the best day in my last 3 years not even lying. I know it doesn’t change anything at all but there is hardly anyone i geniunely hate more than that freak and Bibi of course.
Is this more George Galloway/Scott Ritter news? Israeli sources (we never know why alternative media figures were led to believe their sources, by the way, they can lie to them! they can give CIA-sourced “insider info” to “prove” they are in the IRGC or whatever) would get an easy W by claiming this and walking it back. It’s the best they have other than claiming all videos of missiles hitting Israel are AI/misattributed.
yeah likely fake but let a man dream ok?
DID HE GET GOT
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
We need to be Trusting the Plan, not trusting Random Accounts That Use The Most Questionable Capitalization Possible.
yeah likely fake but let a girl dream ok?
I’m genuinely beginning to fear that the US and Israel choose the nuclear option to maintain their empire. I can’t think of anything rgat would stop them besides fear of Russian retaliation sparked from fear.
I really fukcing wish Iran developed a nuclear weapon like the DPRK, because I’m sick to my stomach worried about this.
Hopefully this entire fiasco is enough to sway certain world leaders to develop nuclear deterrence arsenals of their own, but if I’m being honest, Libya should have been enough of a wake-up call so I highly doubt it.
If they use nukes, the world is literally over lol. China and Russia would, rightly so, preemptively nuke the US afterwards and so on.
I’m not sure they would risk the end of the world for Iran…
I’m just paranoid about the nuclear option and how unhinged the empire is going to be in this dying war.
Also i don’t think they’d have Trump going “its the most succesful military operation ever” etc… They wouldve started preparing the public for the nuclear option since the beggining imo.
Trump recently said that the Iranian people are evil. To me that sounds like a departure from the regime change line that was being used up until now.
That’s just what he does. Both hegseth and trump been parroting how succesful and excellent everythings been going so it would be insane trying to justify using a nuke at this point. If anything i think they’re about to fold with this messaging. Make the public believe they won and they’re the best to ever do it so they’re pulling back, while in reality they’re running away with the tail between their legs.
What is the difference between dropping tens of thousands of conventional warheads vs dropping a few nukes?
The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the U.S. reactionaries use to scare people. It looks terrible, but in fact it isn’t. Of course, the atom bomb is a weapon of mass slaughter, but the outcome of a war is decided by the people, not by one or two new types of weapon. -Mao
A nuke or even ten cannot win the war. The missile launchers and depots are all over Iran and most of them are made to withstand penetration bombs and nukes don’t do penetration. All nukes would do is convince the world to destroy america before america destroys the world.
I think it’s also important to mention that Iran is trying to liberate Palestine. Dropping a nuke on the occupied territories would poison the land for decades or even a century. In this way, Iran’s possession of a nuclear deterrent is a paper tiger. I believe this is why they’ve committed themselves to building up their military capacity with conventional weapons instead.
I think the power of nukes comes from not having an opportunity of using them. It does not mean that the country will be free from wars or other means of conquest, but acts as a deterrence to other nuclear attacks and prevents escalation of war. Let’s remember that when Israel was being smoked by a coordinated attack from Syria, Egypt and Jordan, during the Yom Kippur war, the threat of nuclear escalation made the US to broker an agreement with Israel’s neighboring states. However, nuclear deterrence does not prevent other forms of war, like assassination, sabotage, precision strikes or proxy wars.
Iran is very close to having the ability of manufacturing nukes, though. It has advanced missiles, Uranium enrichment facilities, and abundance of stocks of enriched Uranium. What Iran may lack is technology for miniaturizing the nuclear payload (or not, if they got it from another country or if they stole the tech through espionage).
They also lack an ICBM capable of striking the USA. They have the expertise to develop one though. This could deter the ghouls in Washington, but Tel Aviv I’m not so sure.
Mao made that quote in 1946 when nukes were much, much less powerful and numerous then the ones that exist today. What Mao said was true for back then and it’s possible using nukes might ultimately backfire on the US but I think it’s still important to keep sober with reality, nukes are serious business and every country that cares about sovereignty should be seeking them, immediately. If Cuba and Russia were smart Russia would be stationing nuclear missiles in Cuba RIGHT NOW before the fascists yet again take advantage of their opposition hesitating and vacillating against their aggression and fearing/seeking salvation from an international community that does not exist rather then taking concrete action.
Russia stationing nukes in Cuba would absolutely cause a Cuban missile crisis Pt.2
Yes, it would, but the alternative is the US invading and taking over Cuba with minimal consequences. The US government and military establishment have spelled it out in a crystal clear fashion they are on global crusade to purge socialism militarily and they should be taken at their word as much as Hitler should of when he wrote his thoughts about the bolsheviks in Mein Kampf. And it pains me to say it but Nuclear weapons are truly the only viable defense in Cuba’s case. Cuba doesn’t have the robust ballistic missile and drones manufacturing that Iran has and a committed attack by the US would be extremely one sided. We can talk about the Bay of Pigs and Vietnam but the factors aren’t identical. The Bay of Pigs was a suicide incursion done by rabid Gusanos that the US merely supported rather then an actual US military campaign, Vietnam had a steady stream of supplies and support from China and the USSR to keep them fighting into perpetuality. The best leverage Cuba has would be to strike shipping and oil assets in the Gulf but again they lack the missiles and drones to do that like Iran can.
Sanctions cause over 550k deaths every year. That’s as much as dropping the biggest nuke ever tested on a city.
True but having nukes or a nuclear weapons program isn’t the bar for having devasting sanctions placed on you by western nations these days, merely not being a vassal is. Cuba has no nuclear weapons program and has done absolutely nothing to the United States for decades and the US is still starving them anyway just for being communist.
It would kill millions of Iranians and irreversibly effect Iran on a ecological, societal, and economic level.
The rest of the world doesn’t yet have the capacity to destroy the US, so what exactly would they do in fear of a US weilding nuclear weapons?
Honestly I think I might develop a genuine irreconcilable hatred of the white race if the US nukes Iran. I don’t mean meme “unlimited genocide on the first world” I mean I will refuse to interact with white people at every opportunity and cuss them out if they try to be cordial.
I’m fucking terrified for my family’s life in the events of a nuclear strike.
It would kill millions of Iranians and irreversibly effect Iran on a ecological, societal, and economic level.
How is this any different than if they use conventional weapons?
The rest of the world doesn’t yet have the capacity to destroy the US,
They do in a nuclear war. This is the whole concept of M.A.D.
Like yes it would be horrible but only as horrible as what they already have done to Gaza.
How is this any different than if they use conventional weapons?
My fear is that if the US runs out of conventional weapons or if they want to keep some stockpiled for a future altercation with China, a nuclear weapon would be the “solution” to that problem.
They do in a nuclear war. This is the whole concept of M.A.D.
Russia, and China have the capacity to bring about mad, the rest of the Global south has no defense against an atomically reckless US.
Like yes it would be horrible but only as horrible as what they already have done to Gaza.
I don’t want my family members to have to go through what Gaza has, nor do I want anywhere to be like Gaza again.
Russia, and China have the capacity to bring about mad, the rest of the Global south has no defense against a atomically reckless US.
Yes they do. Russia and China are the defense. A first strike is the only defense for Russia and China against a belligerent usa that is willing to use nukes. It forces their hand no matter who the target is because of the usa’s proven track record of antagonism against China and Russia.
If someone screams over and over that they are going to kill you but they don’t because you have a gun pointed at them and then you see them pull out a gun and shoot someone else are you going to wait for them to face you or shoot them right away?
You are dooming for no reason. The results of a nuclear strike are horrible for everyone but they are markedly worse for israel and usa. You are worrying about people doing something that would hurt themselves more than it would hurt anyone else. Even a psychopath wouldn’t do that. They do not believe the armageddon tripe that some jar heads are spouting. There is no up side to them and all they care about is the upside.
It is a waste of energy worrying about something that is very unlikely to happen especially when there is nothing you can do to stop it.
I hope you are correct. I just fear for my family’s safety. Without the nuclear option, I see the complete retreat of imperialism from West Asia, which I truly hope to see.
Right this is what worries me since it fits the model I’ve been working with for this whole conflict. My consolation is that I misjudged how rapidly we would accelerate into the whole oil industry across the region getting decimated. This does allow Iran to maintain MAD in a sense. They are aiming their weapons like they want to kill people at insurance companies via cardiac arrest, it’s very calculating. As for Israel independently launching nukes when its entire intelligence-military apparatus is in the hands of the USA, I think that may be unrealistic. We can still skate by without nukes dropping.
Apparently amerikkka is sending a B-whatevernumber Mercury plane over there which is some special plane used to scope things out for nuclear strikes…
Robots I made, in violagion of most treaties un the world
does anyone know of any marxist writings on the intricacies of bourgeois economy? stuff like inflation and capital controls and mortgage-backed securities. it’s been really hard for me to find anyone who even thinks about that kind of stuff who isn’t a libertarian.
