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Also what’s up with the double v’s

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    They’re a big fan of the 2015 horror movie The VVitch.

    Or maybe there’s some kind of V fixation among chuds, because I’ve never understood why RETVRN is spelled like that. Is it another Roman empire fetish thing?

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      Historically (prior to the 18th century), V and U weren’t considered separate letters—they were variants of the same letter. In lower-case text, v was the initial, and u was medial ; thus, what we would now spell as “ upon,” they would have written “ vpon,” and what we would now spell as “ have,” they would have written “ haue.” This is also why the letter w is called “ double-u ” in English. In upper-case text, however, V was generally used regardless of position, which gives us RETVRN. The Romans did write like this as well, and that’s specifically what the meme is emulating, rather than a more general historical trend. The reason it’s all in upper-case writing is because many Roman inscriptions were written before lower-case letters were invented.

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    Probably some Buddha = Nepali = Indo-aryan = white the Dravidians ruined India ahistorical nonsense. Ties in with all the Indian Americans I see taking tiktok videos of themselves going “idk why media portrays all Indians as brown! My whole family has white skin!” (Or something like that that’s the gist). BJP GOP fascist internationale going strong.

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      Actually, speaking of hindutvas, I’ve been recommended a lot of Buddhism-related videos this past month and I was surprised by the large number of Indians commenting on them when I remember Buddhism having mostly died out there as a major religion ages ago. Then I remembered reading about modern hindu nationalists basically claiming ownership of Buddhism by saying it’s just an offshoot of Hinduism.

      And indeed, in the comments on this same video there were many Indian commenters criticising the video for downplaying Buddhism’s Indian and Vedic roots and portraying the Buddha as too much of a social reformist. Also, comments mentioning Ambedkar and Navayana Buddhism got replies from Indians angry about dalit anti-hinduism michael-laugh

      It’s just kinda fascinating, like if Israelis started playing gatekeepers of Islam and Christianity

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    I like when white supremacy is transparently desperately grabbing at any historical figure that goober can attach to instead of their sibling-parents. It’s peak sad.

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Also what’s up with the double v’s

    Scared of people doing a history search for the keyword white probably

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        Yes. At least in Therevada, A Buddha is a name for a type of person who rediscovers the path to enlightenment, and teaches it. Another Buddha can only arise when the path is completely lost (which isn’t now of course).

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          In my familiarity with Buddhism, mainly Chan Buddhism I think, a Buddha is a fully enlightened being who escapes samsara and is able to rediscover and teach the Dharma. There have been many Buddhas in the past and there will be many in the future, but only one fully enlightened Buddha appears in the world at a given time.

          An arhat and other enlightened beings can also escape samsara, but they do not rediscover the Dharma on their own or establish a new teaching in the world the way a Buddha does.

          A Bodhisattva is someone who will become a Buddha in the future and is delaying final Buddhahood out of compassion for all sentient beings, and Budai is a specific Bodhisattva who is traditionally regarded as an incarnation or manifestation of Maitreya, the future Buddha.

          Not an expert but this is how I’m familiar with it.

      • Mmm kinda, not really. In Therevada there is the Buddha. In the Mayahana schools theres whats called Bodhisattva’s that are said to not choose nibbana at death and continue to be reborn to help others. Not really a thing in the older school like Theravada where the Bodhisatta is just the being that has the requisite karma to become a Buddha in this lifetime.

        Then theres PaccecaBuddhas (theres no way i got that spelling right) and they’re people who achieve full awakening but aren’t compentant teachers and can’t guide others along the path to enlightenment. The Buddha is the Buddha precisely because he was fully enlightened AND a great teacher who knew the path fully, how he got there and how to help others get there.

        So, kinda, but not really? But that big fat monk that everyone in the west thinks is the Buddha was just a monk, not a Buddha

        I know more about Theravada than the other schools so someone feel free to add to this or correct it

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          I know more about Theravada than the other schools so someone feel free to add to this or correct it

          It’s basically exactly what QinShi was saying. Budai is considered to be an emanation of Maitreya. Maitreya is a tenth stage bodhisattva, which is very close to being a Buddha. And in particular, since Maitreya is the next Buddha of this world system, he’s even more closely associated with being a Buddha, and if I understand correctly, is literally referred to as a Buddha in Chinese literature. So, yes, Budai is basically a Buddha.

        • QinShiHuangsShlong [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          I was speaking more from my experience with Chan Buddhism specifically, I’ll take your word on how it’s understood in Theravada, since that’s not my background. In the Chan context I’m somewhat familiar with, Buddhism isn’t usually framed as there being only one Buddha in an absolute sense, and figures like bodhisattvas and manifestations play a bigger role in how people understand practice and symbolism. From what I’ve seen and heard, Budai isn’t understood as Sakyamuni Buddha, but is commonly associated with Maitreya, sometimes described as an incarnation or symbolic manifestation rather than literally being “the Buddha himself.” There’s also generally an understanding in Chan that multiple Buddhas exist across different times and realms, so Sakyamuni isn’t seen as the only Buddha to ever exist, just the one connected to our current world and historical period.

          I could be wrong and I definitely wouldn’t take my word for it but that’s my understanding at least.

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          This isn’t correct, in therevada also there were many past buddhas, and the current one, gotama, talks about them occasionally.

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              I don’t remember either. But there have been and will be many more buddhas.

              EDIT: I recall a sutta where Gotama looked into his past lives, and his encounter with one of the past buddhas that put in him the desire to become one. So I assume there have been many earth buddhas.

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      “Vampire” would be such a good slur for white people…if they wouldn’t proudly embrace it.

      • Smug, aristocratic aesthetic
      • Literally whole shtick is the same as a zombie. Everyone sucks but us, so destroy anything that does not conform.
      • afraid of seasonings
      • pale
      • burn in sunlight
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    Aren’t a lot these reincarnation of some Dalai Lama some white kid from a middle class background? I’m sure they made a movie about one of them. It could always be part of the CIA “Free Tibet” OP, to increase popularity of Tibetan Buddhism with white people.