Regardless I don’t see the point of inviting discord between communists, MLs especially, when we should be promoting understanding and coexistence. Dengoid remains an insult and will just shut people off.
I quote Marx here: “Our task is that of ruthless criticism, and much more against ostensible friends than against open enemies; and in maintaining this our position we gladly forego cheap democratic popularity.” http://hiaw.org/defcon6/works/1850/04/kinkel.html
But he’s made his allegiance clear. His brand of “patriotic socialism” that Maupin also espouses (who met with the founder of nazbol ideology several times) appeals to the far-right, compromising the essence of marxism to placate fascists but here he made it clear he has no compassion at all for communists who don’t follow him as, in his opinion, they are not actual communists.
This attempted character assassination would work except I’m already familiar with the people and movements you mentioned. You mean Dugin? Dugin is worth reading to understand conservative resistance to imperialism. What’s more “NazBol ideology” when you really look into it is basically Social-democrats that have pinched a few ideas from Lenin and tried to incorporate nationalism. It essentially was born out of the 1990s and the sheer confusion of the time. In reality you can fit every single NazBol on earth in one room. They quickly dissolved into the “Other Russia” party showing they were a product of 1990s Russia and that “NazBol ideology” is just another slander against Marxist-Leninists now that communist has become cool.
Just an FYI on this: Black Lenin (Beness Aijo) was in the NazBol party when he was in Russia then joining some other communist parties and he participated in many brave and heroic actions in recent years.
Beness Aijo, an actual “nazbol”, has been out killing nazis in Ukraine.
appeals to the far-right, compromising the essence of marxism to placate fascists but here he made it clear he has no compassion at all for communists who don’t follow him as, in his opinion, they are not actual communists.
Do you have compassion for anarchists or trotskyites? But back on topic Haz is not stopping other people doing stuff. He’s criticising them. Bayarea was actively suppressing other communists
I only read the preface because, wow, imagine writing a book over a twitter fight that lasted one evening. But he’s made his allegiance clear.
I think everything’s been said so I’ll just leave here.
Except you characterize me as performing “character assassination” or engaging in “disingenuous and conniving behaviour” and, bro, I noticed that. You’re too bull-headed in your opinions which even led you to misunderstand some of my points so you could respond to them while putting your superior knowledge on display.
I’ve met my share of people who thought they could say anything because they were always right – including communists – and they never understand why people don’t engage with them. They probably think people respect their knowledge but no, people just don’t want to deal with the drama and being insulted for petty things. This is elitism between communists, incredible that it even exists.
I don’t appreciate being told I’m engaging in counter-revolutionary behaviour, especially when we’re talking about a literal fascist lmao
Edit: I got your second reply after sending this and I appreciate the efforts you put in that one.
Understood com and I will try to be more agreeable.
But realise you are doing the same thing in regard to “fascist jacketing” people like Maupin purely because they met with Dugin (who in no real way can be called a fascist).
There is simply no way you can accuse Maupin of being a fascist and you can only really accuse Dugin of being a fascist if you think rejecting liberalism is fascistic. Which would be a ridiculous stance to take as a communist.
I quote Marx here: “Our task is that of ruthless criticism, and much more against ostensible friends than against open enemies; and in maintaining this our position we gladly forego cheap democratic popularity.” http://hiaw.org/defcon6/works/1850/04/kinkel.html
This attempted character assassination would work except I’m already familiar with the people and movements you mentioned. You mean Dugin? Dugin is worth reading to understand conservative resistance to imperialism. What’s more “NazBol ideology” when you really look into it is basically Social-democrats that have pinched a few ideas from Lenin and tried to incorporate nationalism. It essentially was born out of the 1990s and the sheer confusion of the time. In reality you can fit every single NazBol on earth in one room. They quickly dissolved into the “Other Russia” party showing they were a product of 1990s Russia and that “NazBol ideology” is just another slander against Marxist-Leninists now that communist has become cool.
Just an FYI on this: Black Lenin (Beness Aijo) was in the NazBol party when he was in Russia then joining some other communist parties and he participated in many brave and heroic actions in recent years.
Beness Aijo, an actual “nazbol”, has been out killing nazis in Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beness_Aijo
Do you have compassion for anarchists or trotskyites? But back on topic Haz is not stopping other people doing stuff. He’s criticising them. Bayarea was actively suppressing other communists
I’ll have a read of the article he wrote, thanks
I think everything’s been said so I’ll just leave here.
Except you characterize me as performing “character assassination” or engaging in “disingenuous and conniving behaviour” and, bro, I noticed that. You’re too bull-headed in your opinions which even led you to misunderstand some of my points so you could respond to them while putting your superior knowledge on display.
I’ve met my share of people who thought they could say anything because they were always right – including communists – and they never understand why people don’t engage with them. They probably think people respect their knowledge but no, people just don’t want to deal with the drama and being insulted for petty things. This is elitism between communists, incredible that it even exists.
I don’t appreciate being told I’m engaging in counter-revolutionary behaviour, especially when we’re talking about a literal fascist lmao
Edit: I got your second reply after sending this and I appreciate the efforts you put in that one.
Understood com and I will try to be more agreeable.
But realise you are doing the same thing in regard to “fascist jacketing” people like Maupin purely because they met with Dugin (who in no real way can be called a fascist).
There is simply no way you can accuse Maupin of being a fascist and you can only really accuse Dugin of being a fascist if you think rejecting liberalism is fascistic. Which would be a ridiculous stance to take as a communist.