• JucheBot1988
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    2 years ago

    Honest question re Ukraine and Russia continuing to be “brotherly peoples:” what is sentiment of average Chechens towards Russia these days? From the outside, it looks as if they have largely realized the collective West was using them, and as a result the anger they had towards Russia has turned into anger at the west. I wonder if, following either (1) a Russian victory, (2) collapse of the Ukrainian government, or (3) Ukrainian victory leading only to IMF-imposed austerity, the Ukrainians could similarly realize that they were used, and become friendlier to Russia.

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      2 years ago

      About Ukraine, note the turn of events:

      • 1991, all the shit that happened
      • 2004, colour revolution putting the rabid russophobes and western puppets in power
      • After few years, Ukrainians elect president that promised normalisation
      • 2014, coup putting the rabid russophobes and western puppets in power
      • After few years, ukrainians again elect president that promised normalisation
      • 2024??? seems like 2023 or 2024 will bring another huge upheaval

      So while i wouldn’t say Ukrainians and Russians are brothers, not after century of chauvinist propaganda and now literal war, but they sure as hell don’t want to be enemies and USA needs to coup them every decade to remind them of their place.

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      I’d have to know at least one Chechen personally to answer this. I can say that ethnic Russians I know tend to dislike Chechens and frankly other Caucasus peoples. Hell, I’ve gotten crap for it in the past, and I’m not even from Caucasus.

      As for “realized being used” bit… There’s anectodal evidence that the second Chechen war strategy of getting locally popular leaders on your side had its fruits. And you might have seen how well Grozny got rebuilt. This, however, only fuels animosity towards Chechens.

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        Interesting – thanks for the inside view. Honestly, while I support Russia and the SMO, and think (for reasons I’ve explained elsewhere) that western communists should refrain from criticizing Putin’s government, it can be easy for us westerners to think Putin is better than he really is. Mainly out of reaction to the blatant Russophobia in all the media, and also because, as a competent, dignified leader, he automatically comes off looking better than the clowns we have in charge.