Why the fuck is Macron so hellbent on sending troops to Ukraine? Does he really want to start a nuclear war? He’s putting all our lives on the line, and for what? Latvia doesn’t surprise me one fucking bit, Finland and Sweden are annoying as hell, and I am just so disappointed in Portugal…
If NATO does end up dropping troops and getting our countries in big fucking trouble I really hope non-aligned countries are willing to take in those that don’t want to stick around for the consequences.
Every day I keep getting convinced that it’s not worth staying here…
My theory is that he’s just using this rhetoric to advance his position within the EU bureaucracy and to insulate himself from any criticism that he wasn’t doing enough when the whole thing falls apart. He’ll be like see I wanted to send troops in but it’s all you fuckers who were scared.
I’m glad he’s gambling with our lives just to elevate his status. Even if troops are never dropped I’m not thrilled with them threatening to do it anyway even though they are well aware the consequences.
I’m not a Putin simp or anything but it’s funny how the west was crying about how he’s a “madman” and a “psycho” and “insane,” yet they’re the ones who are putting the rest of the world at risk and hungering for more, even worse, violent conflict.
Indeed, I mean just looks at the insanity on display here
She said Putin understands people are “afraid of the nuclear war” so plays into that to shock the public.
“It is a trap, a trap of self-deterrence,” the Estonian politician said. “Because if we are afraid, then we start to self-deter – and this is what Putin wants.
Shame, really. I barely even lived, now I have to die. Because line go up. Because some crusty fucks couldn’t stand the thought of USSR existing. Couldn’t stand the thought of not owning everything. Stupid ass timeline
I think they are trying to cause the conflict to grow into a cold stalemate. Their idea probably is that they’ll station troops near the front, and Russia will not risk advancing against , engaging with or bombing them for fear of retaliation. It’s a play to prevent Russia from annexing more territory. Putin made it clear that Odessa, Kharkov and Kiev are Russian lands.
They are essentially calling Putin’s bluff, and if they are wrong, we all get to die in a nuclear holocaust.
By the way, Macron’s generals will never let him do something like this. Ever since Macron started making these comments, they’ve been leaking information to the press on the horrid state of the French army, and a few have made it known that they think Macron is acting like a fool. I sure hope they can save the day.
Putin made it clear that Odessa, Kharkov and Kiev are Russian lands.
When did he say this? My impression is that while Russia is fine annexing the breakaway eastern parts of Ukraine with large numbers of ethnic Russians, it’s not eager to try to govern what will likely be an unfriendly population in the west.
In his Tucker Carlson interview when he was talking about the history of the Rus, he stated multiple times that Kiev is part of Russia.
In his state of the union before the elections he declared that the Black Sea should be secured. Which means Odessa and Mikolayv will be annexed as well. This would make sense, as it would also connect the Transnistria region with the rest of Russia.
A year ago, when they stated which areas they would incorporate into Russia, they claimed Zaporizshia, Kherson, Luhansk and Donetsk. But they’ve also stated this is the minimal goal, and they’d like to have a buffer between Russian lands and the West. Which logically means, they’ll incorporate in some fashion the Kharkov, Dnipropetrovsk and Sumy oblasts, possibly Chernihvy too.
From there, you are already at the Dnieper river and Kiev isn’t that far. If Ukraine insists on not surrendering, then I assume they’ll annex everything up to the Dnieper, which will include Kiev.
Ukraine will likely remain as a rump state, and Russia will most likely impose a population exchange as part of a ceasefire, to ensure mostly compliant Russian-speakers remain in their newly administered lands.
Why are you disappointed with Portugal? This country is the happiest lap dog I’ve ever seen. Our politicians are always ready to embrace NATO’s policy, even if our contributions are pathetic and meaningless.
Familial connection mostly, and what could’ve been with the Carnation Revolution that was unfortunately sabotaged. It just makes me sad every time.
Also I thought Portugal was in a weird financial spot, like they didn’t have enough in their own country let alone send it to another. Guess I was wrong.
A People’s History of The Portuguese Revolution by Raquel Varela is a book about it, I know I used it for the paper I wrote comparing the Carnation Revolution and the Cuban Revolution. Theres also The Revolution before the Revolution: Late authoritarianism and student protest in Portugal by Guya Accornero. If you know anything about the Cuban revolution you’ll actually find quite a bit of similarities with Portugal when it comes to Student protests and Unions playing a big role in carrying out the larger movement, both of course played out differently and the results were also different too. Those two books should be a good start, I’m sure others, especially comrades from Portugal, have better sources for you. The article “External Factors’ Influence on Course of the April 25, 1974 Revolution in Portugal” by D.N. Ermolovich talks about the US meddling in Portugal post-revolution. Although that one is in Russian, hopefully there’s an English translation out there but… yeah. I remember reading about how Mario Soares (leader of the Portuguese Socialist Party post-rev) was affiliated with the CIA so there’s that factor.
Why the fuck is Macron so hellbent on sending troops to Ukraine? Does he really want to start a nuclear war? He’s putting all our lives on the line, and for what? Latvia doesn’t surprise me one fucking bit, Finland and Sweden are annoying as hell, and I am just so disappointed in Portugal…
If NATO does end up dropping troops and getting our countries in big fucking trouble I really hope non-aligned countries are willing to take in those that don’t want to stick around for the consequences.
Every day I keep getting convinced that it’s not worth staying here…
My theory is that he’s just using this rhetoric to advance his position within the EU bureaucracy and to insulate himself from any criticism that he wasn’t doing enough when the whole thing falls apart. He’ll be like see I wanted to send troops in but it’s all you fuckers who were scared.
I’m glad he’s gambling with our lives just to elevate his status. Even if troops are never dropped I’m not thrilled with them threatening to do it anyway even though they are well aware the consequences.
Yeah, it’s absolutely batshit insane rhetoric to be using, but I think we can all agree that sanity left the building in the west a long time ago.
I’m not a Putin simp or anything but it’s funny how the west was crying about how he’s a “madman” and a “psycho” and “insane,” yet they’re the ones who are putting the rest of the world at risk and hungering for more, even worse, violent conflict.
Indeed, I mean just looks at the insanity on display here
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/vladimir-putin-afraid-war-nato-143037047.html
I know multiple people irl who would look at this and see absolutely nothing wrong with this rhetoric. In fact, they will support every word
I guess we might not have to worry about global warming being a problem
Shame, really. I barely even lived, now I have to die. Because line go up. Because some crusty fucks couldn’t stand the thought of USSR existing. Couldn’t stand the thought of not owning everything. Stupid ass timeline
I think they are trying to cause the conflict to grow into a cold stalemate. Their idea probably is that they’ll station troops near the front, and Russia will not risk advancing against , engaging with or bombing them for fear of retaliation. It’s a play to prevent Russia from annexing more territory. Putin made it clear that Odessa, Kharkov and Kiev are Russian lands.
They are essentially calling Putin’s bluff, and if they are wrong, we all get to die in a nuclear holocaust.
By the way, Macron’s generals will never let him do something like this. Ever since Macron started making these comments, they’ve been leaking information to the press on the horrid state of the French army, and a few have made it known that they think Macron is acting like a fool. I sure hope they can save the day.
That leak is promising at least. Call me crazy, bluff or not, I don’t think I’d ever take the gamble these NATO folks are willing to bet.
When did he say this? My impression is that while Russia is fine annexing the breakaway eastern parts of Ukraine with large numbers of ethnic Russians, it’s not eager to try to govern what will likely be an unfriendly population in the west.
In his Tucker Carlson interview when he was talking about the history of the Rus, he stated multiple times that Kiev is part of Russia.
In his state of the union before the elections he declared that the Black Sea should be secured. Which means Odessa and Mikolayv will be annexed as well. This would make sense, as it would also connect the Transnistria region with the rest of Russia.
A year ago, when they stated which areas they would incorporate into Russia, they claimed Zaporizshia, Kherson, Luhansk and Donetsk. But they’ve also stated this is the minimal goal, and they’d like to have a buffer between Russian lands and the West. Which logically means, they’ll incorporate in some fashion the Kharkov, Dnipropetrovsk and Sumy oblasts, possibly Chernihvy too.
From there, you are already at the Dnieper river and Kiev isn’t that far. If Ukraine insists on not surrendering, then I assume they’ll annex everything up to the Dnieper, which will include Kiev.
Ukraine will likely remain as a rump state, and Russia will most likely impose a population exchange as part of a ceasefire, to ensure mostly compliant Russian-speakers remain in their newly administered lands.
At least I won’t have to go into work, and can get my tan done all at once.
My bones never get enough sun and are always pearly white. I can finally change that.
His wife is 20 years older than him and he wants to die together with her.
Oh my god I forgot about that. Wasn’t he groomed by her?
Yes, besides being older, they had a relationship when he was at school, and he was underage, and she was his teacher, She should have been arrested.
Why wasn’t she thrown into prison? Is France weird?
In my opinion of someone who has never lived there and has an biased view, yes it is strange
Why are you disappointed with Portugal? This country is the happiest lap dog I’ve ever seen. Our politicians are always ready to embrace NATO’s policy, even if our contributions are pathetic and meaningless.
Familial connection mostly, and what could’ve been with the Carnation Revolution that was unfortunately sabotaged. It just makes me sad every time.
Also I thought Portugal was in a weird financial spot, like they didn’t have enough in their own country let alone send it to another. Guess I was wrong.
Looks they weren’t able to sweep away all the fantoches de Kissinger…
Have any good reading on the Carnation Revolution? I have a pretty surface-level understanding and it seems fascinating.
A People’s History of The Portuguese Revolution by Raquel Varela is a book about it, I know I used it for the paper I wrote comparing the Carnation Revolution and the Cuban Revolution. Theres also The Revolution before the Revolution: Late authoritarianism and student protest in Portugal by Guya Accornero. If you know anything about the Cuban revolution you’ll actually find quite a bit of similarities with Portugal when it comes to Student protests and Unions playing a big role in carrying out the larger movement, both of course played out differently and the results were also different too. Those two books should be a good start, I’m sure others, especially comrades from Portugal, have better sources for you. The article “External Factors’ Influence on Course of the April 25, 1974 Revolution in Portugal” by D.N. Ermolovich talks about the US meddling in Portugal post-revolution. Although that one is in Russian, hopefully there’s an English translation out there but… yeah. I remember reading about how Mario Soares (leader of the Portuguese Socialist Party post-rev) was affiliated with the CIA so there’s that factor.