There was incredibly intense struggle session in early christianity about that. And the only options were a) he’s just god and b) he’s human and a god. No christian denomination think he was just a human, it would not be christianity anymore then.
So yeah, he’s always a god, and not just any god but THE God, omniscient and omnipotent. And yes, they did noticed the fact if he was really omniscient there would be no need for Jesus at all, but those guys were declared heretics and majority of christianity just proceeded to happily ignore that paradox, like every other one.
No… Wtf? I mean, yeah, the Gospels contradict each other, and stuff, but depending on the sect and in general therms, Jesus was never a normal man, only in the most gnostic of the gospels, Mark, which is the first one (historically) may interpret this thing, but the religious consensus is that Jesus is divine, not just a prophet like Moses, even if Jesus said that if Moses wasn’t real, he was for nothing. Spoiler:Moses never existed.
Back when I was in Catholic indoctrination school, I was taught that Jesus was both completely god while also being completely a normal man. This is of course ridiculous, but Christians thought it made sense because muh god.
I mean, the meme wasn’t talking about historical Jesus, but if you wanna put it this way…
While we don’t have any writings nor direct testimonies of a historical Jesus, if he was real at all, what original Christians were, was an escatohological (apocaliptic) sect very into interpreting Judaist texts and sort of a mix between Amish, Jehovah’s Witnesses and those not so known Christian cults from Russia from the pre Soviet / Tzarist times.
Basically, “the end is near” + tribalism + persecution complex to the point of asking Roman judges to be executed so they could be martyrs.
This one, even if was real, is nearly completely nonexistent in christianity.
To know more about supposed human Jesus, i would suggest reading about the essene sect rather than christian sources, since judean preachers of early I century were heavily influenced by that sect. In next two generations they went much more radical which ended in the bloodbath of uprising.
Yeah, it’s the same interpretation that a sect of ancient pre-orthodox Christians (we have to interpret Orthodox not as the Orthodoxy post great Schism) that were then persecuted and had to fly outside the Roman Empire to the Arabian Penninsula.
The Gnostics had a similar fate, but I think that Gnostics were directly wiped out.
*God himself
Both. Both of them. And if you count trinitarian mythology, Jesus is god.
Wait, Jesus has a status of god? Wasn’t he always a normal human
There was incredibly intense struggle session in early christianity about that. And the only options were a) he’s just god and b) he’s human and a god. No christian denomination think he was just a human, it would not be christianity anymore then.
So yeah, he’s always a god, and not just any god but THE God, omniscient and omnipotent. And yes, they did noticed the fact if he was really omniscient there would be no need for Jesus at all, but those guys were declared heretics and majority of christianity just proceeded to happily ignore that paradox, like every other one.
No… Wtf? I mean, yeah, the Gospels contradict each other, and stuff, but depending on the sect and in general therms, Jesus was never a normal man, only in the most gnostic of the gospels, Mark, which is the first one (historically) may interpret this thing, but the religious consensus is that Jesus is divine, not just a prophet like Moses, even if Jesus said that if Moses wasn’t real, he was for nothing. Spoiler:Moses never existed.
Back when I was in Catholic indoctrination school, I was taught that Jesus was both completely god while also being completely a normal man. This is of course ridiculous, but Christians thought it made sense because muh god.
I mean the real Jesus, not fictional one from bible
I mean, the meme wasn’t talking about historical Jesus, but if you wanna put it this way…
While we don’t have any writings nor direct testimonies of a historical Jesus, if he was real at all, what original Christians were, was an escatohological (apocaliptic) sect very into interpreting Judaist texts and sort of a mix between Amish, Jehovah’s Witnesses and those not so known Christian cults from Russia from the pre Soviet / Tzarist times. Basically, “the end is near” + tribalism + persecution complex to the point of asking Roman judges to be executed so they could be martyrs.
This one, even if was real, is nearly completely nonexistent in christianity.
To know more about supposed human Jesus, i would suggest reading about the essene sect rather than christian sources, since judean preachers of early I century were heavily influenced by that sect. In next two generations they went much more radical which ended in the bloodbath of uprising.
I always thought in christianity he was just the son of god, lol.
In Islam he’s the son of Mary and is a prophet, not god or the son of god or anything like that
Yeah, it’s the same interpretation that a sect of ancient pre-orthodox Christians (we have to interpret Orthodox not as the Orthodoxy post great Schism) that were then persecuted and had to fly outside the Roman Empire to the Arabian Penninsula. The Gnostics had a similar fate, but I think that Gnostics were directly wiped out.