As one who was in it. I hate it. They partner with the religious right to basically train kids to have toxic masculinity issues and further bring them into the church. I hate them.
I wonder if this depends on location? There must have been some religious element to my scouts – the hall was attached to a church – but I can’t remember that part of it at all.
it definitely does, and how much influence the parents have. i was in two troops as a kid, one was clearly secular, the other was dominated by bougie christian quasi fash (prob full fash by now). the parents absolutely ruined the youth’s experiences in the latter, and propped up their own kids with special status and privileges.
They were cool, afaik most of socialist countries in Europe did had such organizations, which were openly based on US boy scouts, like polish ZHP (still existing but being put into cathonational whirl and severly diminishing because capitalist taking over of childhood for the last 30 years).
There’s also ZHR in Poland, which are just as you said catholic conservative boy scouts, but i did not seen any of them for a long time so idk maybe they dwindled already.
And then, unfortunately, there was Hitlerjugend, which was based on the US boy scouts too, which shows how those organizations are generally successful in formatting the young generation, thankfully there aren’t much profits in this so they aren’t big in capitalism.
As one who was in it. I hate it. They partner with the religious right to basically train kids to have toxic masculinity issues and further bring them into the church. I hate them.
Socialist scouts would be very cool tho
I wonder if this depends on location? There must have been some religious element to my scouts – the hall was attached to a church – but I can’t remember that part of it at all.
it definitely does, and how much influence the parents have. i was in two troops as a kid, one was clearly secular, the other was dominated by bougie christian quasi fash (prob full fash by now). the parents absolutely ruined the youth’s experiences in the latter, and propped up their own kids with special status and privileges.
I’m lucky that my community doesn’t have a church connection or any real political affiliation besides a vague patriotism(🤮)
They were cool, afaik most of socialist countries in Europe did had such organizations, which were openly based on US boy scouts, like polish ZHP (still existing but being put into cathonational whirl and severly diminishing because capitalist taking over of childhood for the last 30 years).
There’s also ZHR in Poland, which are just as you said catholic conservative boy scouts, but i did not seen any of them for a long time so idk maybe they dwindled already.
And then, unfortunately, there was Hitlerjugend, which was based on the US boy scouts too, which shows how those organizations are generally successful in formatting the young generation, thankfully there aren’t much profits in this so they aren’t big in capitalism.