This sort of thing wouldn’t have been controversial even five years ago. People used to understand and be able to express their honest opinion: “yes we’re working with ruthless devils, and they’re doing wicked things, but we feel the price is worth it to achieve our ends.” You can understand that point of view. It’s not tasteful, but at least it’s rational.
I was thinking of Albright as well. Imagine a question like that even being posed today let alone given a straight answer. It wasn’t even that long ago. How quickly things go to shit. Now we have AOC and the like who answer difficult questions with academic rambling, or Sanders insinuating anti-war protesters are directly paid by Russians. Those are supposed to be the good ones. At least Albright was honest.
Agreed, feels like the only political progress the left has made here is to mainstream the language of justice without any of the substance. Actually let me rephrase that because I’m making it sound like the left here has any real power…
It’s more like the powers that be have successfully co-opted socialist rhetoric as a tactic to undermine its development and confuse the movement.
I haven’t been following Capitol Hill politics that much since it seems like a dead-end but I’d really appreciate a link to that Sanders quote, that’s wild
This sort of thing wouldn’t have been controversial even five years ago. People used to understand and be able to express their honest opinion: “yes we’re working with ruthless devils, and they’re doing wicked things, but we feel the price is worth it to achieve our ends.” You can understand that point of view. It’s not tasteful, but at least it’s rational.
Reminds me of the Madeleine Albright quote “we think the price is worth it”
The price being the lives of half a million Iraqi children and the it being sanctions on Iraq.
I was thinking of Albright as well. Imagine a question like that even being posed today let alone given a straight answer. It wasn’t even that long ago. How quickly things go to shit. Now we have AOC and the like who answer difficult questions with academic rambling, or Sanders insinuating anti-war protesters are directly paid by Russians. Those are supposed to be the good ones. At least Albright was honest.
Agreed, feels like the only political progress the left has made here is to mainstream the language of justice without any of the substance. Actually let me rephrase that because I’m making it sound like the left here has any real power…
It’s more like the powers that be have successfully co-opted socialist rhetoric as a tactic to undermine its development and confuse the movement.
I haven’t been following Capitol Hill politics that much since it seems like a dead-end but I’d really appreciate a link to that Sanders quote, that’s wild
https://youtu.be/b9Mejz0mkjA about 4:10
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