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  • @Lemmy_Mouse
    13•1 year ago

    I’ve been keeping up on the Serbian one. The conflict has a history of bluster from both sides. Kosovo (created out of thin air by NATO to occupy a part of the heart of Yugoslavia in the 90s) tends to send it’s troops, cops, etc…into the northern section of their occupied space which has a lot of ethnic Serbs living there, which under a treaty signed in the 2000s is to be controlled and patrolled by Serbia. This time Kosovo arrested a Serb in the northern space, a police captain IIRC, and in response the Serbs put up barricades on the edge of the space with non-Serb Kosovo and have said (and done so far) that they will not get rid of the barricades until their officer is released. Then Kosovo and Armenian forces (who are supposed to be banned from the space under the same treaty and have a history with the Serbs) stormed and took over a municipal building in the ethnic Serb occupied Kosovo area, further raising tensions. The demand that they leave said building was added to the demands of the barricade protesters. The Serbian president has ordered Serbian forces to the boarder, Kosovo has ordered their forces (including Armenian forces) to the boarder. Both are threatening to invade. NATO has sent a letter to Serbia telling them to allow Kosovo to take down the barricades and take over Serbia. The deadline to reply was tonight, so far I haven’t received any updates. Russia has said a few times now they will support Serbia in the event of invasion by Kosovo, Armenia, and/or NATO. A Russian peacekeeping troop was forced from their building in the northern occupied space and the building was burned down earlier this year. There has been gun shots and explosions on and off for months now. Much of this has been repeated time and time again although from what I know of the situation the ultimatum from NATO is new.

    • @redtea
      10•1 year ago

      Thanks for this explanation.

      Could NATO fight proxy wars in Ukraine and Kosovo at the same time?

      • @Lemmy_Mouse
        4•1 year ago

        They could. Some other questions come up as well; Should they? Should Russia? Will China get involved? What would the overall outcome either way for the geopolitical position of the EU? The US seems determined to destroy Europe’s economic sovereignty and make them a poor and dependent region so it’s within their interests to start another conflict in the region. Should they? No, but this has never stopped them before. Should Russia open another front? I wish I had all of the information the Russian Ministry of Defense has because they are very secretive and do things in a matter according to a game of chess. I cannot say but let’s hope they have learned from Afghanistan. Will China get involved? Tough to say, they have a backup consumption link in America, and have been doing a lot in Africa lately. It depends if Europe is detrimental to the CPC’s plan for China’s development. Again I wish I knew more. These are all aspects of the situation in Kosovo and Serbia. Isn’t it interesting how one isolated conflict is in fact interconnected to the most complex aspects of our global economy…

    • SovereignState
      9•1 year ago

      Wow! Echoing comrade Shrike502’s thanks. I’m at least glad to see Serbia refusing to grin and bear (or aid and abet) the continued assault against their sovereignty like so many of the comprador governments in the region do. It is absolutely horrifying contemplating what the hawks will do to escalate (or more hopefully de-escalate).

      If I had to guess, Kosovo has outlived its unconditional allyship and usefulness if it threatens provoking a full blown NATO-Russia war by illegally continuing to expand its borders. While currently occupied by NATO, they’re not considered a member state, right? So the hawks getting involved would probably look a lot like how they’ve been involved in Ukraine, I think, at least I hope. The NATO presence already established there does make it more volatile.

      • @Shrike502
        6•1 year ago

        Or perhaps Kosovo is about to perform the function it was created to do - cause chaos in Europe by creating another hot spot

      • @Lemmy_Mouse
        3•1 year ago

        My pleasure. From what I have been told by Serbians and others intimate with the situation there, Kosovo is like Ukraine in the sense that it does not make a move without NATO’s order. They interpret this as a NATO aggression. The purpose is unclear. A distraction? A second front in the Russian campaign? An attempt to gain more of a stranglehold on the EU in that area? No one is sure but there is understandably a lot of anger over this action.

    • @Shrike502
      8•1 year ago

      Thank you for the analysis! First time hearing there are Armenians involved, what are they doing there?

      • @Lemmy_Mouse
        4•1 year ago

        To take over Prestina which is the capital of Kosovo. I mistook it for the capital of Serbia, so no. Apparently Kosovo (or Albania) might not control Kosovo right now and so want control. This is unclear to me. Sorry for the misstatement on my part.