I haven’t made a post regarding this in a while, so I guess I’ll make another to get an updated version of our thoughts.

When will the US fall? How do I help make it happen? Will it?

I’ve been thinking a little bit about the future of the United States and the world as a whole and believe that the U.S. must fall before it and the rest of the imperial core can make any meaningful systemic change (and the end to imperialism, brutal capitalist wars, and any potential solutions to climate change).

With that being a prerequisite for a socialist change and a better world, my question remains - how the fuck is that going to happen? When will it happen? Will it naturally collapse due to contradictions in capitalism? Or is there going to have to be hope of a socialist revolution? If it’s the latter, I have very little hope, assuming it requires the American populous to do it. Maybe when more people’s conditions worsen there will be a larger sense of revolutionary activity but with what I’ve been seeing around my area and online it is just status quo liberal “vooot” garbage that will lead us straight to destruction.

Our political actors and capitalist rulers seem hell-bent on destroying the world to keep their great lives while the rest of us wither away. Our ruling class is so powerful, what are we supposed to do? Is there any chance of a revolution? Do we have to hope and pray that Xi and other AES states will liberate us or just wait til the bombs start flying and the sea levels eat up Florida before we finally have a chance to boot this shit?

A lot of this might be just incoherent rambling, I don’t know. I’m stressed out so my apologies. Thanks for reading this far if you did.

  • @Samubai
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    1 year ago

    It’s hard for me to conceive that the political integrity of the nation could be preserved in a revolutionary moment. Undoubtedly, socialism would be preferred in one region over another. Byzantium and the Holy Roman Empire come to mind. What if there was strong support in one region over the other, would breaking away seem a realistic outcome to you? America is so bloated, I think at least Puerto Rico could successfully secede in such a scenario. Is it possible or desirable to keep the whole empire, would a revolutionary struggle require the whole nation’s majority support?

    • KiG V2
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      111 year ago

      I don’t think the U.S. balkanizing into several capitalist, fascist, socialist etc. states in entirely unreasonable to think might be a possible future.

    • @Beat_da_Rich
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      91 year ago

      It’s more likely that America will Balkanize and the various formations that take its place will have independent revolutions. Rome is a good example in general I think. It didn’t just “fall.” It lost its hegemony and slowly withered away over centuries. Just like Byzantium, there might be some country that still projects itself as “America” but it will be seen as a shadow of its former self.