Uh, yea that’s what we’ve been saying since fucking 2014. And it was YOUR side that made and continues to make the region a dangerous place. Also, just choosing Donetsk because Russia cares about liberating the region literally is just to draw out the war even longer than necessary. I understand why Libs and conservatives all jumped on the Ukraine Train, but as Zelenskyy draws this out and attacked Zaporizhzhiya, and bans opposition parties and draws Nazis into the official military forces, when will they at least say “No War” as opposed to actively Cheering on Ukraine?

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    Thing is Zelensky does not control anything. There was a video going around of him right before the war trying to get his own troops to stop attacking the Donbass, even reminding them he’s not “some random guy but your president” and they just do not care at all.

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      Also look at all of the VICE and similar type media documentaries. Ukraine Army was forbidden from using “volunteers” (read: a lot of them fascists), but VICE kept meeting up with the volunteers and seeing them meet with officers. They would also show soldiers breaking the ceasefire, but of course they were “just responding to Russian attacks.” They were hiding in homes when they shot, and those homes got shelled when the separatists responded.

      The Ukraine military and paramilitaries escalated this conflict into hot war again despite top down direction from the Zelensky camp forbidding them from doing so.

      Let’s be real though, the military was mostly just angry with the volunteers because they brought negative attention to them. By baiting artillery strikes they were harming the military’s defense buildup over 8 years.

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      Wtf really?? I knew he was a puppet but that’s pretty pathetic. Like that’s a new low

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        The military officers were collaborating with illegal “volunteers,” VICE has a few videos on them. Of course the volunteers’ “bases” were covered with nazi shit.

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        Someone posted it on this website I believe and I really, really need to find it again.

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        Oh, yeah. Azov responded by sending more people to the frontline and threatening to send even more. Other politicians actively called for his death. An entire social media campaign got started up accusing him of capitulation to Russia.

        With all that going on in public, I’m sure there were private talks that did even more to convince him to stop even making small attempts at peace.