Apparently the 14th Waffen SS was unique in that it was the sole branch of the Nazis that didn’t do anything Nazi like, and never attacked the other Allies. Nope, just fought the communists.

How convenient.

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    I would like to see the AK veterans reaction when they are being called “bolsheviks” to justify SS massacres.

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        Yeah. Some of them would serve in the SS themselves if only Hitler didn’t cathegorically forbade Himmler from recruiting Poles.

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          Aren’t those the same guys that were supposedly betrayed by Zhukov? I recall Russian liberal press huffing and puffing about it

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            It was actually pretty huge organization grouping most Polish underground from ultranationalists to communists, but mainstream AK reflected mostly the ideas of prewar government, that is, Polish version of fascism.

            You probably think of Warsaw Uprising. Galaxy brains set up their only major action at a time when entire Red Army just finished the biggest offensive in history of humanity and needed a lot of time to regroup and rearm. In the meantime nazis managed to fortify the city and also gathered significant forces to defend it, moreover, those forces were the worst butchers in entire nazi army, including RONA and Dirlewanger brigade, commanded by the SS Obergruppenfuhrer Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski, infamous for murdering at least 1,5 million people in Poland and USSR.

            They also didn’t even hide that the uprising is aimed against the Soviets, it was part of the Operation “Burza”, where AK was supposed to be taking land where Germans leave retreating before the Red Army and turn it into independent Poland and then say “fuck you, get lost” to the advancing Soviets. I have no idea how anyone could even think of such nonsense (well, the London government could, they weren’t famous for firm contact with reality, even Churchill of all people bashed them for being delusional fools). So i would say most of fault fall on the people like general Komorowski who ordered this.

            Of course the massacre ensued, and rightoids blame Soviets. Though entire issue is not as uniformly managed as Katyn, there are some serious dissenting voices in mainstream. Hell, even general Anders, commander of Polish army in the west and himself a shady figure, said absolute truth about the uprising “It was aimed militarily against Germans, politically against Soviets and really against Poles”.

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              That’s exactly what I was referencing. Thank you for the historical context

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              Winston Church calling the Armiya Krayova delusional is a hilarious wake-up call.

              I also find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone with a functioning brain would believe Ander’s lie about the operation being anti-Nazi.

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                He called London Government delusional, not sure about AK. Its leadership certainly was though.

                Anders didn’t lied in this case he said the operation was militarily against Germans, which it was, combat was against Germans and in some places the operation was a success and when Red Army came, AK just stood down because there was an order not to engage them.

                The really tragic and suicidal part was just Warsaw Uprising.

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                  I understand that it was militarily against the Germans, but it seems like that wasn’t the primary “spiritual” intent. You’re right though.

                  Yeah, that was horrific. Its so sad that despite the guns on their side, the Nazis had the Warsaw fighters outnumbered and outgunned.