• @Power_of_Z
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    These backward and religiously conditioned morons can not imagine it being voluntary. That’s how far they are mentally gone. Even calling it rape. Not realising that by forbidding it it will actually encourage rape. But it’s a bit like with drugs, forbidding it and then thinking it will disappear. Only to see that it happens but only unmonitored and much more dangerous. These people are total hypocrites.

    • @panic
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      22 years ago

      You’re a liberal lmao

      • @Power_of_Z
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        12 years ago

        You’re a nasty religious conservative from the dark ages

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          I’m a degenerate bisexual with no gender or god. So I better get prepared to get stoned to death, liberal.

          Edit: Lmao are you down voting my comment history? Are you a child?

          Edit 2: you’re a dude from western Europe, yeah I see no reason you would defend pornography and prostitution. Goodbye!

        • Breadbeard
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          22 years ago

          i think this argument “prostution equals rape” just serves the STate Departement persecution of Julian Assange in the eyes of the METOO/CorpDem suffragette class, driven by white affluent housewives.

          I admit it is a long arch, but they are doing everything to destroy the man. including inciting astroturf outrage like this panic-person

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        and what are you then? a fascist? because lets not forget that the purity-principle (part of which is the institutional sovereignty over womens bodies) is at the core of catholic fascism. do you think all people went to work sober in the soviet union or that there were even much reprisals against being drunk at work? do you think there was no prostitution? i beg to differ…

        so why this exclusionary love for alcohol but condemnation of other means of self medication? It stems from the same cultural religious encoding that tells us that female sexuality and the power it holds is dangerous or sinful?

        drug prohibition was driven by fascists and christians and usually for purely for a mixture of racism and profit motives (also to keep their monopolies - see dupont / Nylon in particular) and so is the shaming of women using their sexuality for profit - Prostitution (legal, regulated…) is labour and as such deserves representation. So how about you attack the porn moguls of san fernando rather than the probably oldest exchange of goods in history?

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          What the fuck are you talking about

          Hearing a “comrade” talk this way about the sex trade makes me suicidal lmao. There’s no fucking hope if “educated communists” will spew this type of shit. Goodbye.

          • Breadbeard
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            -12 years ago

            framing the other argument like this makes me worried that you are not led by arguments but by outrage over something which you do not relate to as it has people in it which you don’t want to relate to. very communist of you, truly…

            • @panic
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              22 years ago

              Oh my god. Shut the fuck up. I’m not interested in discussing a topic that is highly triggering on a fucking public internet forum. Again, goodbye.

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                triggering? wtf? why? maybe you should take that emotional discomfort/cognitive dissonance towards arguments that make you feel strange as a learning moment. but okay. you do you…

                • @panic
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                  22 years ago

                  Sexual violence is a very common trigger. I have long since learned that sexual violence is defended in many spaces.

                  I don’t feel “strange”, the fuck is wrong with you.

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                    pornography/prostitution in and by themselves are not “sexual violence” and yes, sexual violence is bad and needs to be fought. totally agree, but you cannot conflate them. it’s like homophobes conflate lgbtq people with pedophiles. doesn’t give justice to the issue at hand or to the larger class of participants.

                    (sexual) exploitation and violence in both, prostitution and pornography need to be fought, in this we are comrades. but i m not fighting concepts like prostitution or pornography themselves, that would be somewhere between utopian stalinism and medieval catholic fascism, at least way too authoritarian for it to not create enormous amounts of suffering. way beyound what legalized and regulated prostitution could bring.

                    is the market exploiting its participants? does it create toxic behaviour and exploitation? then crack down on it where it happens. that is market regulation and a function of the state. and has nothing to do with abstract constructs one declares enemy like DonQuixote attacked windmills in his illusion of grandeur. Because honestly, the DonQuixote spirit, i can sense this shit miles away from here. idealistic it may be, but not constructive imho

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      this is about reinforcing the framing of assange as a rapist by hillary/bush jr. supporting astroturf agents running amok here now as it seems. it justifies their absolute betrayal of him and throwing him to the torture empire to be abused and killed. this is what they are about. With the arguments given and knowing what i know, i have a hard time believing that this poster is about womens rights. but rather about creating pretenses under which Julian Assange must be hated and despised by the left and left to be tortured and murdered.

      the emotional framings, the smearing, the twisting arguments, not sticking to the debate and then ultimately victim postureing until the admins intervene is their social media forum PLAYBOOK 101 and i m saddened that the admins can’t see this. i mean just look what the person wrote in my argument with them