When are we allowed to draw the line if they just won’t listen? I’m really beginning to think that most of the population in the West is simply lost. Nothing except a full scale Chinese takeover and Xinjiang style vocational training will get through to most people. Americans are simply going to run themselves into the ground choking on the boot the whole way down. They will gleefully accept climate death and societal collapse if there’s some kind of entertainment product to keep them numb to the pain. Don’t waste your time on anyone over the age of 25 I say.
There are ways to make people listen, no matter what unless they are landlords or actually own capital, it is possible to get through to them because the socialist cause is in their best interest. The key is to know who you’re talking to and how you approach them.
A lot of them will be facing challenges caused by the current state of affairs in the imperial core, rising costs, job security and increasing inequality have already been stirring the masses for a few years now. But they’ve been mislead to think the problem is not the system but rogue factors like immigration or electoral politics which they think can be fixed by voting.
Don’t open with revolutionary or radical ideas, start by getting them to question where their problems come from, then build off that.
Also it should be noted that this only really works on people in real life, its near impossible to change someone’s mind on the internet. To solve these problems we have to get out there and spread the word.
In my experience even if you come at people in the way you described they still just don’t get it. They really believe they are better off now under capitalism or they don’t want to give up their privileges or they don’t want to think about politics or they find that socialist policies are just “too radical and scary”. I’m mainly venting but people can be so dense it’s incredibly frustrating.
You can’t just tell them that that capitalism is bad. They have to come to that conclusion themselves, wink wink nudge nudge. Ask them if they know how capitalism works, and if they can’t answer try to get them to think about where profit comes from. Most people’s understanding is that just Capitalism has rich people in the minority, and that’s it, no value of labor, no means of production. Keep the conversation in the means of capitalism, sure capitalism has innovated but how come it has come to a standstill. Maybe bring up why the PRC grew so fast, they can’t deny that while it’s in their lifetime. You just gotta to be patient and empathize with what part of capitalism they are struggling with. Or maybe try to find people who are honestly trying to learn and start there.
I know it can get frustrating, but it is not impossible, we have to be patient, and more than anything we cannot antagonize and talk down to them, as tempting as it may be when constantly having to go over the same arguments over and over. Radicalization takes time, several months to several years depending on the person.
Never forget, when the first congress of the CPC was held in 1921, the entire party consisted of only 57 members, out of which some didn’t even show up.
Now that very same party has almost 100 million members. And leads the worlds fastest growing superpower.
We must persevere, revolutionary optimism is crucial.
When are we allowed to draw the line if they just won’t listen? I’m really beginning to think that most of the population in the West is simply lost. Nothing except a full scale Chinese takeover and Xinjiang style vocational training will get through to most people. Americans are simply going to run themselves into the ground choking on the boot the whole way down. They will gleefully accept climate death and societal collapse if there’s some kind of entertainment product to keep them numb to the pain. Don’t waste your time on anyone over the age of 25 I say.
There are ways to make people listen, no matter what unless they are landlords or actually own capital, it is possible to get through to them because the socialist cause is in their best interest. The key is to know who you’re talking to and how you approach them.
A lot of them will be facing challenges caused by the current state of affairs in the imperial core, rising costs, job security and increasing inequality have already been stirring the masses for a few years now. But they’ve been mislead to think the problem is not the system but rogue factors like immigration or electoral politics which they think can be fixed by voting. Don’t open with revolutionary or radical ideas, start by getting them to question where their problems come from, then build off that.
Also it should be noted that this only really works on people in real life, its near impossible to change someone’s mind on the internet. To solve these problems we have to get out there and spread the word.
In my experience even if you come at people in the way you described they still just don’t get it. They really believe they are better off now under capitalism or they don’t want to give up their privileges or they don’t want to think about politics or they find that socialist policies are just “too radical and scary”. I’m mainly venting but people can be so dense it’s incredibly frustrating.
You can’t just tell them that that capitalism is bad. They have to come to that conclusion themselves, wink wink nudge nudge. Ask them if they know how capitalism works, and if they can’t answer try to get them to think about where profit comes from. Most people’s understanding is that just Capitalism has rich people in the minority, and that’s it, no value of labor, no means of production. Keep the conversation in the means of capitalism, sure capitalism has innovated but how come it has come to a standstill. Maybe bring up why the PRC grew so fast, they can’t deny that while it’s in their lifetime. You just gotta to be patient and empathize with what part of capitalism they are struggling with. Or maybe try to find people who are honestly trying to learn and start there.
I know it can get frustrating, but it is not impossible, we have to be patient, and more than anything we cannot antagonize and talk down to them, as tempting as it may be when constantly having to go over the same arguments over and over. Radicalization takes time, several months to several years depending on the person.
Never forget, when the first congress of the CPC was held in 1921, the entire party consisted of only 57 members, out of which some didn’t even show up. Now that very same party has almost 100 million members. And leads the worlds fastest growing superpower. We must persevere, revolutionary optimism is crucial.
this.
I feel it