Baidu forums is like 4chan and twitter had a baby

Not to mention the nature of internet (self explanatory);

and the nature of the population size (even if you have 99 good people for 1 hateful nazi in China making it infinitely better than the west, it still means China is a country with tens of millions of nazis running around);

and the nature of a socialist country that had to go through the propaganda and oppression of the post-cold war era (when you have been under decades of anti-third world pro-west propaganda, it’s hard not to push back in the other direction. Some of these people have been brainwashed and believed all their life that Chinese people are sinners who deserved genocide for wasting energy and pollution because of their inferior way of life, now they learn all long the average person in the west west waste and pollutes tens times more, what is the logical conclusion?);

I would say it’s fairly understandable and there’s no point letting it get to you. If I can think of a good comeback in 10 seconds I will type something, otherwise I just move on.

Oh and as an afterthought, anyone who knows the real history of communist China would see just how clownishly ignorant and pitiful the ones who act like “Tiananmen square protest is the first spark of freedom and political dissidence” is. It’s like a child who thinks he is better than an uni prof at math because he adds faster.

It is Americans who would clutch their pearls and lost their minds just because some people went into the “sacred” government building (supposedly used for serving them) without permission!

CCP at one time encouraged public humiliations of CCP official just to have people put them in their place and remind politicians they are not a special breed above people. Millions of random everyday people were shitposting/reposting each other at local democracy walls across the country just with pen and paper long before internet invented and certainly before the Free Media of the west revealed the existence of “democracy walls” in 1989.

To this day the official curriculum itself still hammers into every kids head (to the dismay of their future corporate managers and other “elites”) that everyone from Chinese books from 2000 years ago to the works of Lenin and Mao tells us that we have the full right to violently dispose the government “elites” if they no longer serve us, and they are no special breed from your building janitor no matter how snobbish they act like, making you a “radical tankie” in the west.

It’s an internal conflict that was infiltrated and corrupted into a regime change attempt backed by the CIA. American imperialism only has the power and balls to overrun the small and helpless. When dealing with enemies who can somewhat defend themselves, it is always about inciting people stupid/greedily treasonous enough to kill themselves.

The protests were completely legit. They in fact wanted more socialism as “capitalistic” reforms (or more accurately, just “less pure communist”, it’s not like people started getting “capitalism”) give people some good and give people some bad, and people are hurting from the bad and having regrets. This legit motive has absolutely nothing to do with the separate fact that it then completely manifested into a western regime change operation seeking to destroy the country and must be put down immediately.

It’s like maybe you don’t like your boss. He might be a legit asshole that needs to change his ways. Now CIA comes to and say they agree with you completely and proceed to encourage and supply you the means to blow up the whole office, then perhaps the ministry of labour, then perhaps your parents and friends for not helping. We can of course acknowledge that being an asshole boss is bad. Never be distracted that buildings of people are marked for death because of the CIA instigated the murder and the wronged employee is acting as a mass murderer. Anyone who tries to distract the focus from the CIA elephant in the room is either willingly or unwittingly trying to facilitate the plot of mass murder, period.

So yes. The entire background of the protests are good and progressive and justified. China tried to be more like the so-called Modern and Free West and this “modernity” brought countless problems from economy to society quality of life to inherent bureaucratic corruption, a non-unique experience that you can write a book from and every society can observe and learn from.

People from top to bottom then rose up in protest and vibrant civilized debate because post-revolution China was a society where people were educated and expected to have the intellect and discipline to handle real, direct freedom and responsibility of political democracy. (And it is precisely this event and successful foreign meddling that showed people are in a more complicated age where they cannot resist irresponsibility and thus forced the party to put heavy chains on this freedom).

It is then at this point that the Chinese Gorbachevs who wanted to take power away from the socialist-roaders, working with imperialist meddlers and the minority of student leaders (who were willing and got the resources to sell-out and remove their opposition), working together to direct the movement away from advocating for policies and resolving social demands, into advocating of overthrowing the entire communist revolution. Just like telling people you need to burn the entire building, kill everyone, and all your problems will be gone.

You can put your own thinking hat on. You see a retired senior who worked 24/7 his whole life now clearly deteriorated physically and mentally. What could possibly make him leave early during a multi-hour meeting? What could possibly make him want to stay?

Maybe you can believe your eyes and it’s just an old man who is proud of his lifelong work, being old, and struggling to fight against the force of time like the billions of achieving humans who live and understand self-worth out there.

Or maybe you can believe actually old man is not just being old, and it’s a deep dark 20 year long political plot filled with hatred and deceit and reveals the inferiority of barbaric societies and cultures like the Chinese. Or maybe old man is not just being old, and he is a secret reptilian about to shapeshift. Maybe notice how Mao Zedong is absent from the meeting altogether and maybe dead man is not absent because he’s dead but because he soulshifted into Hu’s body through voodoo and is hanging on to politics by pretending to be Hu and CCP devil witchcraft and infighting is on full display here and you just have to know what to look for.

We can make our own conclusion. And ironically the narrative we proudly decide on (and these days, advertise on the internet) actually reinforces and reveals more about the intelligence, morality, and mental state of the person making the claim than the subject at hand.

And this is a long roundabout way of saying, old man is old, just like the sun rose because it’s morning. It is time to disconnect, stop letting your dystopian government control your mind and distract you from real issues in life. Instead making you question the rising sun, make you question why are the birds chirping, and make you debate if birds are actually secret communicating to aliens in a plot to destroy the earth.

This is encouraging that at least people in the science are still acting in good faith. Not surprised that once again it is capital dominating the narrative with their stink through lackey scientists/politicians/activists/propagandists.

You are absolutely correct

“you didn’t see the slave labor in prison. People starving outside the government. So many wanting to leave”

Of course. The more these people try to exercise their imagination about insert evil commie country here, the more they reveal about what their imagination is based on: their own experience of reality at home.

People clearly have the horrors of the capitalist society burned into their brain. Instead of lifting a finger you just overdose on copium and desperately hope that random people across the planet are just as suffering but maybe even a little worse, and let lets them sleep at night. And the irony on top is if they weren’t so desperately wishing suffering on others to put themselves at peace, it could have been more motivation to rise up and stop their own suffering in their own home and become at peace for real.

Hiragana and katakana won’t really help. Knowing Kanji would. Kanji had a lot of similarities with traditional Chinese which has a lot of similarities with simplified Chinese. Some Kanji sounds are similar to mandarin.

For example someone mentioned 図書館 vs 图书馆 which you can see is similar.

In simplified Chinese instead of writing out 書 with all the straight lines+top and bottom, you just turn twice with 书.

Left part of 館 also simplified into the hook-like 饣instead of totally writing out the boxes, and this simplification applies to any character that has this 饣part (which often relates to food, livelihood related characters)

And for pronunciation it is to-sho-kan VS tu-shu-guan also similar. Or in most accurate English pronunciation with pronounced parts inside brackets: lit[tle]-[show]-[con] VS [too]-[shoe]-[gwon]e

Oh but of course catch with mandarin Chinese is it having four tones. English and Japanese is just flat. The flat tone is only one of the four possible tones in Chinese.

If only American redditors weren’t subject to so much censorship and ignorant on what actually goes on in the rest of the world.

20 million? History understanders must be tracing the slope of the line of projected birth rate again. “Huang, probably a landowner” as decreed by omniscient redditors here, probably added 100 or so to the deathcount all by himself when you count all the theoretical descendants of his bastard children from the women he would have went on to rape.

There’s more layers to this guy’s ignorance than his actual brain. Speechless. Even according to dunning kruger effect you aren’t supposed to be this confident so soon only with this pea-sized level of knowledge.

Other cultures exist?!

Maybe some places objectively qualify as sweatshops in the late 90’s, not but for children. In fact I struggle to imagine how a factory employing children would even work in China. Any kids with parents alive are clearly not going to be made to go into industrial manual labor, so it has to be orphans. What company would go out of their way to employ and feed such problematic inefficient and illegal kids instead of just hiring normal people?

It’s like the plastic rice propaganda all over again. Sounds like a possible claim until you realize the claim is that businessmen are deciding to spend energy and time to increase costs to make less desirable products with less profit at additional legal if not personal risks for themselves, with nothing to gain other than qualifying as an evil person…

Implying libs are having their limits tested right now They dgaf precisely because it is not them that’s being hurt and they can afford to defend the status quo or let things continue on the path of going to shit, and they are way too shortsighted/delusional to see that the hurt is coming for them down the line.

The moment they actually start to hurt for real they will react, maybe even more strongly since they never had to experience or even think about it up until then, but it will be too little too late by then.

Fascism/authoritarianism is whenever my needs and wants has to make the slightest of way for the trillions of other lifeforms on this planet. Leftism is when I am allowed, I mean humanity is allowed (but mostly me me me come first of course) to indulge and on whatever I want with zero consequence and consideration as if you are the god king of this world.

but ummm the fascist government won an (unfree) election after assassinations and millions dollars worth of American foreign interference so ummm this place them high on the American made Democracy Score Index and therefore good actually

And when the communists simplified the writing system to cut off some unnecessary strokes you got dumbass libs who don’t know a word of Chinese scream about muh culture suppression

And food comes from where…? Spoken like a true lib who take their basic essential lifelines for granted and think food grows out of supermarket stalls without ever giving a single thought to capitalistic and often exploitatively reality they benefit from.

Lol at least Israel was one of the only reds

“know history”:

when you watched three sub-10 minute animated youtube videos on the same subject that kept regurgitating the same talking points. And while most of it still flew right over your head, you are at least a big boy who is able to regurgitate two sentences all by yourself. And this is the of course the epitome of human intellect and ability to think freely.