Ive heard some in the internet that the protesters are actually arent Completly CIA backed-revolution, and heck iver heard the protestors singing the internationale.

I need information. I kept seeing shitlib sources ‘1 bajillion dead’ type of source

  • @roccopun
    10•1 year ago

    It’s an internal conflict that was infiltrated and corrupted into a regime change attempt backed by the CIA. American imperialism only has the power and balls to overrun the small and helpless. When dealing with enemies who can somewhat defend themselves, it is always about inciting people stupid/greedily treasonous enough to kill themselves.

    The protests were completely legit. They in fact wanted more socialism as “capitalistic” reforms (or more accurately, just “less pure communist”, it’s not like people started getting “capitalism”) give people some good and give people some bad, and people are hurting from the bad and having regrets. This legit motive has absolutely nothing to do with the separate fact that it then completely manifested into a western regime change operation seeking to destroy the country and must be put down immediately.

    It’s like maybe you don’t like your boss. He might be a legit asshole that needs to change his ways. Now CIA comes to and say they agree with you completely and proceed to encourage and supply you the means to blow up the whole office, then perhaps the ministry of labour, then perhaps your parents and friends for not helping. We can of course acknowledge that being an asshole boss is bad. Never be distracted that buildings of people are marked for death because of the CIA instigated the murder and the wronged employee is acting as a mass murderer. Anyone who tries to distract the focus from the CIA elephant in the room is either willingly or unwittingly trying to facilitate the plot of mass murder, period.

    So yes. The entire background of the protests are good and progressive and justified. China tried to be more like the so-called Modern and Free West and this “modernity” brought countless problems from economy to society quality of life to inherent bureaucratic corruption, a non-unique experience that you can write a book from and every society can observe and learn from.

    People from top to bottom then rose up in protest and vibrant civilized debate because post-revolution China was a society where people were educated and expected to have the intellect and discipline to handle real, direct freedom and responsibility of political democracy. (And it is precisely this event and successful foreign meddling that showed people are in a more complicated age where they cannot resist irresponsibility and thus forced the party to put heavy chains on this freedom).

    It is then at this point that the Chinese Gorbachevs who wanted to take power away from the socialist-roaders, working with imperialist meddlers and the minority of student leaders (who were willing and got the resources to sell-out and remove their opposition), working together to direct the movement away from advocating for policies and resolving social demands, into advocating of overthrowing the entire communist revolution. Just like telling people you need to burn the entire building, kill everyone, and all your problems will be gone.

    • @roccopun
      6•1 year ago

      Oh and as an afterthought, anyone who knows the real history of communist China would see just how clownishly ignorant and pitiful the ones who act like “Tiananmen square protest is the first spark of freedom and political dissidence” is. It’s like a child who thinks he is better than an uni prof at math because he adds faster.

      It is Americans who would clutch their pearls and lost their minds just because some people went into the “sacred” government building (supposedly used for serving them) without permission!

      CCP at one time encouraged public humiliations of CCP official just to have people put them in their place and remind politicians they are not a special breed above people. Millions of random everyday people were shitposting/reposting each other at local democracy walls across the country just with pen and paper long before internet invented and certainly before the Free Media of the west revealed the existence of “democracy walls” in 1989.

      To this day the official curriculum itself still hammers into every kids head (to the dismay of their future corporate managers and other “elites”) that everyone from Chinese books from 2000 years ago to the works of Lenin and Mao tells us that we have the full right to violently dispose the government “elites” if they no longer serve us, and they are no special breed from your building janitor no matter how snobbish they act like, making you a “radical tankie” in the west.