• ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺M
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    2310 months ago

    And this really suprises anyone? Its been the US making demands, setting terms and refusing peace deals out of hand this whole time.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      1510 months ago

      For sure, but it’s important to keep reminding people who actually wants this war to keep going.

  • @lemat_87
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    1810 months ago

    If these western fuckers really cared about deaths and suffering of people and animals, they should propose Ukraine to sign the deal. But they want the war to last as long as possible. I fucking hate UK, it is one of the most conservative (removed) country. So dumb that UE was too progressive for them. Johnson should be in jail. Fortunately, a more left wing politicians getting popularity in UK, but I am affraid they are like democrats in U$.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      1410 months ago

      It’s absolutely disgusting to see how many westerners support this war because they want their ideology to win. They don’t care how many people die and suffer as long as whatever’s left of Ukraine ends up in their camp.

    • @Shrike502
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      610 months ago

      these western fuckers really cared about deaths and suffering of people and animals, they should propose Ukraine to sign the deal

      But bring it up and you get hit with “IF PUTLER ISN’T STOPPED HERE WHERE WILL HE STOP!!!111 WE MUST DRAW ZE LINE HIER!!!111”.

  • @OrnluWolfjarl
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    1110 months ago

    If you remember, Boris Johnson had flown into Ukraine during that period. According to some Ukrainian officials, he convinced/cajoled Zelensky to keep on fighting. Johnson appears to have told Zelensky, that if he accepted the peace deal, then the West would not “protect” Zelensky and his family (presumably from the Nazis).

    The deal would have been pretty good for Ukraine too. They would commit into not joining NATO and stop killing civilians in the East, and recognizing Crimea as part of Russia. Russia would give up the territory it took and would provide financial support to rebuild the embattled areas.

    • @Shrike502
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      910 months ago

      So now we are having hundreds of thousands dead, entire regions devastated and ruined for decades at least. And Boris? Oh he got supposedly banned from running in politics. Not even for that.

      • @OrnluWolfjarl
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        10 months ago

        Boris and Biden (who has presided over the Maidan coup) are just cogs in the capitalist/imperialist/colonialist machine. They are simply doing the job assigned to them. If not them, it would have been someone else who created this insanity, possibly somewhere else. We should still direct our ire towards them and their ilk, but we shouldn’t forget the material conditions that led to this.

        There’s hundreds of Western think-tanks and organizations pushing for similar plans to be enacted all over the world. The goal is simple: have Western capital dominate and dictate humanity. As long as this political “party” exists in the West (created after WW2 in its current form), the world will keep suffering.

        In fact, I predict this whole thing will start all over again. Maybe not right after Ukraine (as the world has mostly turned against the US/UK/EU dictates following Ukraine; even the EU is rocking against it). Maybe in 5-10 years, and most likely in Taiwan. It will be the same story just with different actors.

        • @LarkinDePark
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          310 months ago

          Agree with the last part except I see a much shorter timeline. If not Taiwan then South America. America needs war.

    • @redtea
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      10 months ago

      Johnson: Putin must go

      Putin: Who must go?