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    So, do straight men always want everything they enjoy to satisfy their dick in one way or another? I couldn’t imagine being like this.

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      So, do straight men always want everything they enjoy to satisfy their dick in one way or another? I couldn’t imagine being like this.

      Token cishet white guy, there’s a time and a place for getting titillated into whacking off and a video game exploring the complex web of a man’s guilt and psycho-sexual hangups is NOT the place.

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      I think these guys are a new extreme of misogynistic sexualization. There’s always been awooga guys but i think this specific kind came from a combination of culture war, hyperalienation, amd readily available cjatgpt image makers.

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      As a cis straight guy who draws fetish porn for a living, this is beyond anything I’ve seen. People I work for can separate sexy times and non-sexy times, they don’t need women to be sexualised 24/7.

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    The hedonic treadmill is a thing and so many treat defenders are in complete fucking denial about it.

    Sure, watch porn. Oh yeah, that person on the screen is sexy, agreed. For fuck’s sake, gooning all day and expecting just about every incoming experience to contribute to that gooning streak and expecting everyone else to just go with that and conform to one specific gooner’s magical realm of exhaustive self-indulgence until they get bored and desensitized with their gooning material and need harder/more violent slop is toxic as fuck.

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    Isn’t silent hill exactly wrong type of game to experience anything remotely close to arousal? (i know its plotline only through cultural osmosis)

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      There’s a lot of horny imagery even in the baseline original games, and the association between sexuality and regret/fear was intentional.

      That said, this “hire fans” shit is tacky and sad.

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      It sort of plays with arousal a little in the design of the nurses, but that serves the story and is also creepy, you’re not supposed to be aroused by the faceless bloody-bandaged booba enemies, at least not ‘cleanly’. They and Pyramid Head are the warped expressions of James’ desires.

      I don’t know if their inclusion was intended to become a rorsarch test of the players themselves, but that’s sure what happened. Now that I think about it, their design is great for that, it says “Here is some prominent cleavage and about 36 indicators that something is terribly wrong and dangerous, if you can ignore all of them and get horny for the cleavage then you are very close to being the worst version of James.”

      And it’s one thing to sexualize the sex monster. But to then insist on sexualizing a human character with a personality who is in great pain from a lifetime of objectification and really wants to not be sexualized, to then petulantly stamp your foot and insist on the righteousness of your crusade to morph her into something you can whack off to… It seems like it’s more about the power at that point, the power to take away someone’s ability to refuse to be consumed as a treat.

      Just for the sake of the people around them, I’m glad these guys will never have a relationship.

    • being generous, there is probably some link with fear and arousal. like after a scary movie has concluded or stopped, when feeling safe maybe or as an act of life affirmation? I dunno. I played Silent Hill and it didn’t put me in the mood to get down. it just gave me the creeps. but I’ve had dates before where there was a spooky movie and it later lead to some honking.

      more broadly, I do not get the need to make everything eroticized. I don’t want to be prudish, but it seems like far too much already is or at least trying to provoke me into feeling “turned on” to sell me a beer or a burger or a Chevy or a watch. of course, I’m an old now, so I’m not the walking hardon I was when I was 19 anymore either. I just tend to assume stuff I don’t get is meant for a different demographic anymore.

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      These people don’t play video games (besides FIFA and COD), they just pretend to care about it so they can attack minorities. They probably don’t even know what the game is about, these people out of nowhere become experts in anime, sports, games, series and movies so they can attack minorities. When playing games wasn’t so mainstream, these would be the same people who mocked people who played games as a hobby and were invested in some fictious world, now that being a gamer is more mainstream, they have to pretend they care about games, so they can grift to 14 year olds who hate women.

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      There’s some stiff competition from back then, such as the “Dead or Alive” series and the start of its “fuck it, not even a fighting game anymore, now it’s beach volleyball with gooner characteristics” trend.

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        Yes but even those games weren’t this horny. They were very softcore, whereas this looks like it’s out of a Silent Hill porn animation

        Source: I’ve played most DOA games sans the volleyball spinoffs

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      yep, Asmon who is one of the vanguard of the “keep the ugly women and gays out of muh video games” crowd has recently been focusing more and more of his stream on Israel-Palestine and cheering on genocide. He said essentially ‘you expect me to feel sorry for when the barbaric genocidal people get genocided? They would be doing it too if they had superior technology and more weapons. They’re just sore losers’

      That’s the new line we will be hearing a lot of these chuds

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        well right now he’s onto “that’s an inferior culture” and soypoint-1 “what do you mean you don’t believe in inferior cultures?”

        it’s like three-mile island for hitler particles detector

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        He said essentially ‘you expect me to feel sorry for when the barbaric genocidal people get genocided? They would be doing it too if they had superior technology and more weapons. They’re just sore losers’

        It’s especially rich coming from the filth-dwelling Anglo, living on stolen land his people brutally and barbarically genocided of native inhabitants. No one will be crying if and when he and his get theirs

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    I’m pan, can confirm I wouldn’t touch SH2 with a ten foot pole if Angela looked like that. Porn addicted coomer gamers are a subset of a subset of gamers, and think they are the majority pronouns

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      There’s a reason all the porn games are only found in the nastiest, stankiest corners of itch.io and steam. If they were actually what people wanted, they would be front and centre best selling games.

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      I think it may be real, but needs to be studied by non religious people and actually peer reviewed.

      It does feel like some guys like jerking off way too much that there has to be something. Misogyny plays a role.

      On another note, a guy I knew that worked on the Bernie campaign who suddenly announced on Facebook that he had a Porn Addiction but has cured it by converting to the Armenian Apostolic Church (he isn’t even Armenian). I had to cut him off because he’s basically a nazi now.

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        one day we’re going to go beyond the model of addiction which unfortunately has been poisoned by both religion and the entire addiction-industrial complex (what i call Forever Recovery)

        it’s going to end up being far more complex and rooted in material conditions then most mainstream realize

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          This so much. Addiction needs to be studied and addressed from a non-religious standpoint. I’m an alcoholic and have some issues around porn addiction and it’s real but not in the sense of it being a moral failing but due to my own internalized sexism I’ve encountered over the years and in my formative ones and also like you said material conditions. Mental health plays a huge role too.

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          the model of addiction which unfortunately has been poisoned by both religion and the entire addiction-industrial complex (what i call Forever Recovery)

          Wait, is recovery not supposed to be a life long journey?

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        I’m talking completely out of my ass here, but I feel like excessive masturbation — whatever we might define “excess” to be in practice — is often related to alienation and just terminal boredom. Which is to say, if you feel like you have no control over your own life, and no impact on anything around yourself, then you still have control over your own body, and your own impact on yourself, right? You crave stimulation, and you can give that to yourself — lo, how independent you are!

        The pathology would then arise when, essentially, the signifier is conflated for the signified: when the frequent masturbation being a result of lack of control over one’s own life, is reinterpreted as frequent masturbation being in itself lack of control over one’s own life. This, I’d reckon, would generally occur when someone on some level does not wish to acknowledge that thon lacks control over sy own life, and therefore chooses to hate whatever represents that lack of control rather than confront the fact head-on. Alternatively, someone could’ve just internalized those ridiculous ideas of any amount of masturbation being harmful. In many cases, well, both.

        In any case, when you believe yourself to not be in control of your own masturbation, and masturbation happens to be your coping mechanism for your lack of life control, then these will obviously only feed into each other in a very unproductive way. Badabing badaboom, you have a “porn addiction”.

        Now as I’m saying, I’m just talking out of my ass here, but I do feel like this would explain the general leanings of supposed “porn addiction” with regard to gender and political ideology. Because if you’re the gender who’s raised to feel like you’re owed the world, that you should be on top and in control, then you’re more likely to have a pathological reaction to not being that; and if you’re the type who would project your hatred of the contradictions of capitalism onto its pool of imported labor, then you’re more likely to project your hatred of your life being kinda shit, onto your own genitals. Yet the actual mechanism of “porn addiction” would be, strictly speaking, neutral in terms of gender and ideology — it would find itself anywhere profound boredom would cross paths with a lack of life control that a person for any reason just could not face…

        …Except, what about ideas like supernormality and the hedonic treadmill? Why do some people meet their “porn addiction” with shame while others “embrace it”? I can’t account for any of that, so I don’t think I have all the answers.

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          …Except, what about ideas like supernormality and the hedonic treadmill? Why do some people meet their “porn addiction” with shame while others “embrace it”? I can’t account for any of that, so I don’t think I have all the answers.

          i wonder if, to an extent, they have to constantly ‘up the stakes’ to override their feelings of guilt.

          i would also like to add that people who genuinely compulsively watch porn to a harmful extent almost definitely do exist. however these people… don’t seem to be the ones posting about porn addiction. Edit: usually. I’m sure some poor soul has wandered onto NoFap forums seeking genuine advice. I hope they found peace

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            Sexual arousal directly raises humans threshold for disgust. Ie something that would seem gross when you’re not aroused could seem appealing or even exciting when you are aroused.

            if you don’t know that and end up watchong something you’re normally not in to it may result in distress when your disgust threshold returns to its baseline and you can’t account for why you were excited by something you usually find gross.

            widespread ignorance of human sexuality makes it difficult for people to ever learn what is and isn’t normalml.

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        In so far as I understand it has been studied, or rather attempts have been made to study it, and they have uniformly failed because the phenomena as described by masturbation-fearers does not exist in any meaningful way. It really is just mormons, catholics, and other weird little freaks trying to pathologize normal sexual behavior. It has legs because so many people have absolutely no concept of what normal sexual behavior is, and because everyone’s so damn isolated and porn is stimulating enough to consistent help cope with the social and cultural wasteland of 21st century life. People think they’re jerking it too much because they’ve been conditioned to feel intense shame for jerking it at all, and they think they’re addicted because they think about sex a normal amount of the time. There’s a pretty strict physical limit on “jerking it too much” because no matter what you use for lube chafing will make itself known eventually.

        Depression, anxiety, and malaise also factor in - Masturbation is a very basic form of self-soothing available to almost everyone. People who are already in bad headspace and beset by religious brainworms masturbate because it makes them feel better, then once the anxiety and self loathing comes back htey ascribe it to masturbation and decide they’re weak, pathetic, sinners, addicted, whatever bullshit because otherwise they wouldn’t masturbate to feel better or distract themselves from the depression. And then they go a step further saying that masturbation and thinking about sex is a source of depression.

        It’s really just weird Christians convinced that if you eat enough bran flakes you won’t think about sex, updated for the 21st century.

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          What do you make of chanlords and “energy retention” NoFappers that watch porn but then (claim) to not masturbate to it (or at least, not to climax), to “increase their power level” and for “motivation?”

          That shit’s bizarre, but I’ve heard it offline from such Silicon Valley woo claimants as well as online among up-yours-woke-moralists enjoyers.

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        Just like how it’s nearly impossible to criticize Disney Star Wars movies without being associated with “PURPLE HAIR FEEEMALE BAD” pronouns shit, it’s hard to talk about habit-forming behaviors (or addictions but Reddit pedantics would split hairs about that word) without being associated with NoFap cultists or religious dogma.

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        There was a dude at the rehab I went to who claimed to be working on, among other things, porn addiction. The first time I saw him he was wearing a shirt that said “GOONER” in big letters.

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      Corn addiction is a very serious matter I’ll have you know.

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    I probably watch too much porn but that doesn’t mean I need hyper-sexualization in every piece of media, why would I? if I want that I can just, ya know, watch porn

    PS as a non-gamer I have no idea what the context here is, is that an actual screenshot from a video game?

    edit: nvm figured out it’s the Silent Hill 2 remake and presumably some ridiculous mod or fan-art

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    Aside from the absolute horny brainrot going on here, where would you even find a sweater made like that? This outfit is totally insane. Which it saying something when the rest of the game is about fighting anthropomorphic condoms.