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    My friends and I still use TS3. The audio quality and voice activation is better than Discord’s, and the desktop app doesn’t take ten fucking gigabytes of RAM to run.

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    It seems many don’t remember why there was a ts2 mass extinction. It was because of the horrendous ts3 licensing.

    Why the masses went to yet another closed system like discord I’ll never understand while being very satisfied with mumble/murmur.

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      The absolute largest group of players in any game stuck with Mumble. That would be The Goonswarm Federation in EvE Online. We have just over 25,000 people, and well over 100,000 characters in the Alliance. In fact, AFAIK, all of the major alliances have to use Mumble because it allows more than 100 people in a room

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      Don’t you have to host Mumble somewhere? With Discord anyone can create a server and invite friends for free with no technical knowledge required. That’s a huge plus. I also remember RadCall was a thing for a while, at least where I am from.

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        Yes, you need to run the service somewhere. But anyone can do so (Foss).

        With discord my experience is limited but I currently understand it’s a service model so you’re dependant on a company, which can pull the same sh*t teamspeak did at any time.

        Not needing any technical knowledge just means someone else is running it, possibly being able to lock you in. And in the case of discord, you already are locked in and have to accept whatever they think up.

        At some point, monetization will take over.

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          I don’t think that people are trying to find an eternal solution. Nothing lasts forever. When Discord turns to shit, something else will take its place. There is no need to worry about that when it offers too many advantages today.

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            Fair point, but if you need to switch anyway you might want to pick an available option that solves at least the issue being currently faced.

            The again, we’ve moved back a lot to throw away mentality.

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      Ironic that traditionally Nitro makes things happen faster, probably in this case as well

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        What do you mean? Genuine question, I’m loosely familiar with the the issues with Discord having it’s growing issues with data and advertising but I assumed Nitro was the worst element.

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          The joke in my brain was that Nitro is fast tracking the enshittification of discord

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      Discord enshittification is well under way, just this week I have started seeing ads in the client just above the voice channel status in the bottom left. Cancelled my Nitro immediately, no point if they are going to shove ads in my face anyway.

      Currently looking at alternatives, Revolt looks promising, and can be self hosted.

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          Schildi Chat is probably the best client I have spotted, full voice and video chat functionality in browser. People do way less hemming and hawing about downloading an app if they’ve already been able to try it out in web - just like discord

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            Schildi chat is a reskinned version of element, so if you don’t like the look of element you can use schildichat

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        Isn’t mumble hot garbage? My planet side outfit memes on it whenever it gets brought up.

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          Mumble is like a reliable Toyota Corolla. You will turn no heads, but it has all the features you would need for the task (encryption, room hierachies, ACL, machine-learning-enhanced noise canceling, positional audio, choice of method input like push-to-talk, mini UI overlay atop games), and does them efficiently.

          …And like a Toyota Corolla, there’s probably a decent upgrade out there, but you might be compromising on more than you think. Want a car without the manufacturer tracking you or bloated, touch-screen navigation? Many ‘modern’ VoIP options, especially proprietary ones, are literally doing the latter.

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          mumble is pretty good. I’ve been using it for a few years, has great client server support, no bullshit on either side of the fence there. Super minimal client, though my linux client has issues with leaking memory, easy enough fix though, kill it and restart, which takes 2 seconds.

          has pretty good bot support, you really can’t ask for much more, a bit more support and community utilization would be nice though, it’s somewhat dead.

          So far mumble has been the definition of “just works”

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    Here I am self-hosting Mumble for friends & using Mumble at work. Old tech was built to actually be good on resources.

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      +1 for Mumble. I set up a load of Android PoC devices with a Mumble server and it’s honestly like having walkie-talkies that work over the Intertubes.

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        My phone has extra buttons, so I use the camera shutter for hardware push-to-talk

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      I remember moving to mumble from teams peak because it allowed pretty cool levels of configuration.

      Back in the late 00s and early 00s I was doing world of warcraft raiding. I had the server setup to have one key for main raid and another to talk to only officers. Quite useful especially in bigger raids.

      Also as I recall for any remotely large ts server you needed to pay. The self hosted one was always gimped. Mumble you could self host with no limits.

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      Yep, Mumble is the most common, and there are still a couple groups that use Teamspeak.

      Discord caps at 100 people in a call while I’ve seen good Mumble servers handle over 800.

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        For a group our size (we regularly have over 800 people on our mumble, peak is somewhere around the 1.3k mark if I remember correctly), it would also be very cost prohibitive to use TS

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    Me, the mystery dude in the game server who doesn’t have a mic, doesn’t use any voice features, never text chats, but always shows up and plays.

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    The real question is: How in the world did Ventrillo continue to exist after TeamSpeak came along?

    Vent was an object lesson in hostile UX. It sounded like shit, changing any kind of setting (even basic things like individual volumes) was a a gymnastics routine, and mics constantly clipped despite settings.

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    drop version 5 and people might start fucking using it again.

    Mumble even though it’s literally dead, is a better platform.

    Matrix and XMPP both support this shit also. This is literally a skill issue.

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    Oh, I still use Teamspeak! It’s very nice for small groups up to 32 people (after that one has to use the paid tiers). I do not use X though.

    Maybe I’ll give Mumble a shot, so I can integrate it with Matrix/Synapse/Element.

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    people will come back if the bloat/ad-trend of discord continues… hopefully?

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      nah I’ll just continue to mod my client until the death of it. If discord ever decides to ban mods, then most likely yeah I’ll move. Default discord is so fucking bloated and unusable.

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          Yes. Aliucord is stuck in the past BUT is running the NATIVE version of the app (not the shitty slow electron one).

          Vendetta Manager, discontinued but there is a fork that works. Up to date with discord.

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        Shit, there are discord mods? Is there a list somewhere of popular mods/what do you recommend?

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          vencord, hands down best modding client for the job. Just browse their catalog of avalabile plugins and get yourself a better experience ;D

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        Didnt know discord could be modded. Do you have any privacy enhancing mods you’d recommend?

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          As long as you’re on discord, privacy is just not a thing. However, there was this 1 plugin i really liked, called File Name Randomizer or something along those lines. It would just rename any image you upload to the platform to someone generic. Other than that, there’s the disabled telemetry that some clients come with, but that’s the extent of what I know.

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    Used teamspeak untill me and my crew switched to mumble. They all use discord now though so fuck the traitors.

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    Still hosting TS as the primary place my friends record things because of the audio quality and especially reliability compared to Discord, but not so much for hangouts anymore. Got Mumble in the back pocket in case the licensing goes to crap though

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    I’m absolutely still using teamspeak. Nice and light, and it let’s us run a soundboard plugin that let’s you have unlimited length audio clips. I just wish they’d update the plugin to support the 64-bit version.