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    these are the most wacky shit I’ve seen to invalidate soviet science, like they went to space, hydrogen bomb, made computers and etc with thoughts and prayers

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      They invented and built all of it from within the Gulags using rocks and tree branches.

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          Lenin was a fungal chronomancer

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        yes, but have you thought about the millions of russians and millions of chinese people? That’s a million gulags.

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      If anything, their logical conclusion would have to be that gulaging scientists is the way to go. Shows how bad faith propagandist they are.

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      Apparently the libs claiming they’re orks might be onto something. Maybe that’s the reason they colored everything red after all!!

      Checkmate, communists.

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    Lysenko’s “pseudoscience” was one of the reasons all the people in besieged Leningrad didn’t starve to death, because he found out that you don’t need to plant full potato, but only it’s “eyes”, every “eye” can grow into full potato plant, and the rest of it can be used to feed people.

    But yeah, saving people is useless to muricans, so it doesn’t matter.

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      you don’t need to plant full potato, but only it’s “eyes”, every “eye” can grow into full potato plant, and the rest of it can be used to feed people.

      Wait, I want a source on that claim that Lysenko made that… surely, Gregor Mendel did it first?

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        Here he mentioned in first in 1941. Than here is the book from 1942. After that it was cited in Soviet newspapers, like here, also in 1943 he was awarded for his achievements in planting potatoes.

        More info here

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          contemporary discourse is really a poisoned well, philosophers and scientists i whose work i admire seem to shut off their brains when it comes to lysenko.

          i cant read the stuff you shared, i did read an english translation of i think a committee meeting and it was entirely reasonable.

          they did make references to things i didnt understand, and still would like to go through, like morganism and morgan’s work.

          my assessment was lyenko had an appropriate approach to the empirical evidence and methods of the time. hopefully i can try to parse the works you shared. i really find it disapointing that the rather unique conditions of the environment where the task to grow sustenance is almost never mentioned by opponents.

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            Is there a Lemmy dedicated to scientific communist achievements yet? Feels like a daily post dedicated to a discovery by a communist in any field of academia would be a neat idea somewhere.

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        fyi mendel was ‘rediscovered’ and there was a bit of difficulty in having mendelian inheritance work with darwinian natural selection / adaptationism.

        can look up the ‘modern synthesis’ to learn a bit about it. a marxist who talks about it with a specialty in biology is richaed c lewontin. he has a massey lecture called ‘biology as ideology: the doctrine of dna’ and you can listen to it on youtube or read the associated publication which is a short book that is a essentially a transcription.

        no biology background needed.

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    In the free west no one ever negated materialism in science for ideological reasons like “free will”