Is there any difference between this and how all the chuds were denying the result of the 2020 US election? In both cases it was just asserted without evidence that the claimed result was a lie because they felt it couldn’t be true. Same for Russiagate and 2016. The same pattern repeats:
“Me and most people i know hate this person, therefore it is impossible that they legitimately won the election.”
When asked to produce evidence of actual fraud: crickets. When confronted with how the other side feels: deny, dismiss and demonize. It’s an emotional kneejerk reaction.
Yeah, that’s what it seems like. People are just repeating “the election is fake” enough times that they start to believe it, because accepting that it isn’t is inconvenient to them.
Westerners (mainly Americans and the British) are so used to voting for the lesser of two evils that they can’t even comprehend that a country might actually like their leader. I don’t like Putin but that doesn’t mean Russians also don’t like him.
I remember a heated irl conversation I had about ten years ago with someone from Yugoslavia. That was a time I was peak lib and I couldn’t possibly fathom that what they were saying was true, namely that Russians really like Putin. Since then I have realized the error of my ways, but most people never get that far.
One of the hallmarks of liberalism is the inability to comprehend that other legitimate viewpoints than theirs exist in the world. They project their own (justified or not) likes and dislikes onto everyone else and think that secretly everyone in the world thinks like them and just needs to be liberated by the enlightened West. This manifests in a high level of condescension and dismissiveness toward other people’s cultures and outright refusal to even try and understand their politics on any deeper level beyond a superficial caricature. It is much easier to just label everything that is not western style liberal democracy as authoritarian, autocratic, dictatorial, etc.
Sure, but that’s not a particularly interesting question in my opinion. I mean there are plenty of good reasons to not like Trump, or Biden, or Putin for that matter. Hating them is easy. The better question is “do you understand why their supporters like them (or at least prefer them to the alternative)?”. It’s in answering that question that we learn something valuable. Your ability to give a reasonable, non-caricature answer reveals whether or not you have the ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes, to understand their situation and their point of view. Even or perhaps especially when you consider the other person your enemy, it is useful to be able to do that.
Is there any difference between this and how all the chuds were denying the result of the 2020 US election? In both cases it was just asserted without evidence that the claimed result was a lie because they felt it couldn’t be true. Same for Russiagate and 2016. The same pattern repeats:
“Me and most people i know hate this person, therefore it is impossible that they legitimately won the election.”
When asked to produce evidence of actual fraud: crickets. When confronted with how the other side feels: deny, dismiss and demonize. It’s an emotional kneejerk reaction.
Yeah, that’s what it seems like. People are just repeating “the election is fake” enough times that they start to believe it, because accepting that it isn’t is inconvenient to them.
Westerners (mainly Americans and the British) are so used to voting for the lesser of two evils that they can’t even comprehend that a country might actually like their leader. I don’t like Putin but that doesn’t mean Russians also don’t like him.
I remember a heated irl conversation I had about ten years ago with someone from Yugoslavia. That was a time I was peak lib and I couldn’t possibly fathom that what they were saying was true, namely that Russians really like Putin. Since then I have realized the error of my ways, but most people never get that far.
One of the hallmarks of liberalism is the inability to comprehend that other legitimate viewpoints than theirs exist in the world. They project their own (justified or not) likes and dislikes onto everyone else and think that secretly everyone in the world thinks like them and just needs to be liberated by the enlightened West. This manifests in a high level of condescension and dismissiveness toward other people’s cultures and outright refusal to even try and understand their politics on any deeper level beyond a superficial caricature. It is much easier to just label everything that is not western style liberal democracy as authoritarian, autocratic, dictatorial, etc.
And the next question that is never asked, why does they hate that person in the first place.
Sure, but that’s not a particularly interesting question in my opinion. I mean there are plenty of good reasons to not like Trump, or Biden, or Putin for that matter. Hating them is easy. The better question is “do you understand why their supporters like them (or at least prefer them to the alternative)?”. It’s in answering that question that we learn something valuable. Your ability to give a reasonable, non-caricature answer reveals whether or not you have the ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes, to understand their situation and their point of view. Even or perhaps especially when you consider the other person your enemy, it is useful to be able to do that.