• Water Bowl Slime
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    9 months ago

    I feel the same way about ancient Greek philosophers. Fascists like to hold up Greece as the birthplace of civilization and democracy, but if you read what Plato had to say he’s all like “Slavery rocks, we should gear up for war, and everyone must breed for the state”. It’s so candid it’s refreshing

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      9 months ago

      It’s so candid it’s refreshing

      That’s a good way of putting it. I think with the Greeks, it’s not just the fascists, either. There’s a view even among more level-headed (albeit mistaken) libs who look to the Greeks as virtuous fathers of democracy. You can find some of that. But you have to read it through a rose tinted welding helmet or, as you say, fascist eyes, to ignore the bit about limiting democracy to certain citizens or to treat that bit as a good thing and, likewise, to ignore the bits where they rejected markets.