Have kinda seen these two words used a bit interchangibly, was wondering if there’s a destinction?

  • @Ottar
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  • @housefinch
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    Going to be writing from mostly a western lens, idk about other places that much.

    I presumed nazbols were weird terminally online Stasserists, the ones I always saw would openly believe all the negative CIA propaganda about AES (ex 100 trillion googleplex people dead due to communism, gommunism no food, etc) and think it is a good thing. To add, most of them would praise Hitler somewhere on their user histories or posts for being a strong leader or some other mask off Nazi bullshit, usually about the Holocaust. Tend to be socially conservative, or at least have a lot of overlap with the US conspiracy/QA types. There is no diamat/hismat applied here, just pure aesthetics at best, or a case of the more sinister old game of Nazi appropriation of socialist terms.

    Patsocs generally seem to have a superficial understanding of the national question and in a revisionist way want to reform America as it stands at determent to the world without realizing you can’t reform an imperialist monster, it must be knocked down and reformed and that effort, ties to peoples in struggle they can have pride in. The US as the beating heart of the imperialist core pillaging the world, that’s just making a better thief, might as well roll neocon.

    They can’t seem to grasp the concept of other nations, futures and so on, they can only see the struggles of past non- imperialist AES nations and think they can 1-1 it on present day America which has radically different conditions, there is no historically materialism for them. Many of them are socially conservative, but not always. I think for the most part they are confused, but as idealists they mean well without realizing the harm they’d bring.

  • @CITRUS
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    Now I am generally confused, and forgive for I haven’t been online in my teen years.

    So is Maupin a PatSoc or not because he is anti-imperialist and ML, experienced with lots of theory.

    Now the PatSocs y’all describe I haven’t never seen at a CPI meeting, those there seem like normal Marxist Leninists. Ranging from rednecks to racial minorities to middle class white kids to openly LGBTQIA+ individuals. So is there a misinterpretation of what PatSocs are?

    Are PatSocs different?