Fascists and chuds were scared off in its early stages because people would regularly harass them by doing stuff like “summoning” them (by pinging their username) and demand they explain their support for pedophelia if they were a libertarian or demanding they post a pic of their hog if they made there way into the sub (in a humorous mirror of the old misogynist “tits or gtfo”). cth users would also take over other subreddits. By its end it was a scary place if you were fashy or neolib.
Fascists are cowards, always have been. cth was simply too scary a place for them and there was no joy in trolling.
Would you recommend this as a tactic for all the strict learner subs then, since the endless wave of reactionaries seem to be their biggest problem and is, according to the subs’ moderators, the reason they are as ban-happy as they are?
Not the person you asked but I guess the question is what learner subs want. I agree with stricter moderation practices on subs like that.
I guess you could try and make fun of some of these people but unless you really have a lot of people keyed in on this stuff you’re going to make fun of and abuse some people who were legitimately open to communist thought and well you may or may not turn them off. I will mention many people did regard CTH as toxic because of this unwillingness to suffer people spouting the most generic anti-communist crap and it probably drove people away, but people who stuck around a little and were more open to considering they had been lied to or at least just listening to our side of things seemed to come out of it alright for the most part. Maybe that’s a better acceptable compromise than letting reactionaries run rampant in replies or just banning everyone who deviates from the ML line. You don’t have to do much in that vein, the old “shut up/shut the fuck up liberal” standby and some downvotes conveys the message that they’re engaging in liberalism, that their silence in these matters as a consequence is desired and it brings to mind those hilarious memes of Stalin, Lenin, Mao with laser eyes. But it isn’t particularly nice and I would never say it is the ideal. I would suggest having macros that spam a few resources to debunk common propaganda and if they continue without reading them or in bad faith otherwise then time to pull out the old “shut the fuck up liberal” and/or ban-hammer. Because those most amenable to learning will in most cases read links you give them. They might have more questions, they might be unwilling to give up the propaganda so easily but they will noticeably engage with it.
The ideal on a learning sub is really just having a lot of moderators in the same way the science subs do and just being ruthless in removing bad stuff and if needed issuing temp bans to try and dissuade people from doing again exactly what they did without totally excluding them and giving them another chance. Of course in practice having enough people to do that who don’t suffer from burn-out is a challenge.
Fascists and chuds were scared off in its early stages because people would regularly harass them by doing stuff like “summoning” them (by pinging their username) and demand they explain their support for pedophelia if they were a libertarian or demanding they post a pic of their hog if they made there way into the sub (in a humorous mirror of the old misogynist “tits or gtfo”). cth users would also take over other subreddits. By its end it was a scary place if you were fashy or neolib.
Fascists are cowards, always have been. cth was simply too scary a place for them and there was no joy in trolling.
Would you recommend this as a tactic for all the strict learner subs then, since the endless wave of reactionaries seem to be their biggest problem and is, according to the subs’ moderators, the reason they are as ban-happy as they are?
Not the person you asked but I guess the question is what learner subs want. I agree with stricter moderation practices on subs like that.
I guess you could try and make fun of some of these people but unless you really have a lot of people keyed in on this stuff you’re going to make fun of and abuse some people who were legitimately open to communist thought and well you may or may not turn them off. I will mention many people did regard CTH as toxic because of this unwillingness to suffer people spouting the most generic anti-communist crap and it probably drove people away, but people who stuck around a little and were more open to considering they had been lied to or at least just listening to our side of things seemed to come out of it alright for the most part. Maybe that’s a better acceptable compromise than letting reactionaries run rampant in replies or just banning everyone who deviates from the ML line. You don’t have to do much in that vein, the old “shut up/shut the fuck up liberal” standby and some downvotes conveys the message that they’re engaging in liberalism, that their silence in these matters as a consequence is desired and it brings to mind those hilarious memes of Stalin, Lenin, Mao with laser eyes. But it isn’t particularly nice and I would never say it is the ideal. I would suggest having macros that spam a few resources to debunk common propaganda and if they continue without reading them or in bad faith otherwise then time to pull out the old “shut the fuck up liberal” and/or ban-hammer. Because those most amenable to learning will in most cases read links you give them. They might have more questions, they might be unwilling to give up the propaganda so easily but they will noticeably engage with it.
The ideal on a learning sub is really just having a lot of moderators in the same way the science subs do and just being ruthless in removing bad stuff and if needed issuing temp bans to try and dissuade people from doing again exactly what they did without totally excluding them and giving them another chance. Of course in practice having enough people to do that who don’t suffer from burn-out is a challenge.