I’ve heard conflicting things about their political orientation.

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    proletarians would end up having to crush them and dispose of their unprincipled practices, right?

    This cracker mentality is exactly why they don’t take marxists seriously.

    they are not trying to build any kind of solidarity with other colonized people in Mexico

    They will if those people try to do things their own way, but as it stands they have enough on their plate holding their own border (similar to Cuba, which sends aid but not soldiers due to US pressure). It’s like asking a starving man why he won’t donate to charity while doing nothing yourself, and why Galeano calls out the Basque revolutionaries who pointed a finger while failing to take root in their own territory. They haven’t shown they can do the work, while the EZLN has. You are the chauvinist he is addressing in his letter.

    • @CommisarChowdahead
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      Lovely racial slur. I have been advocating on their behalf, sent money to them, and bought their coffee as well. I’m sorry to have criticisms of them, but they have been isolating themselves deliberately, which is an error. I admire the Cubans for sending aid to people who show no solidarity with them and denounce their movement, which is the right choice to make.

      • @aleshasmiles
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        lmao I thought you were engaging in good faith until you said cracker is a slur

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              Shit, I meant to reply with this to the other person.

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                Ah ok, sorry about the hostility then. Carry on with the good work comrade

        • @CommisarChowdahead
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          Like I said, it is a weak one, but it is none the less childish to call someone you disagree with names like this.

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            I’m not getting into the weeds about this with a stranger, but it’s apparent that you don’t understand that simply using mean name calling against the people in power is not the same as the people in power using hate speech to further their systemic order based on bigotry. You can’t be racist to white people as long as white supremacy is the status quo.

            • @CommisarChowdahead
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              What power do I have? I’m not a mod of any kind here, and if I had any power in society do you think I would be here? I’ll grant I’m privileged, but power is something else that I neither have nor want.

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                  Do you mean like, being white I have the power to commit hate crimes? I mean, suppose, but like I said I wouldn’t want to do that kind of thing any way.

                  • Fiona (she/her)🏳️‍⚧️
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                    That’s not what is being said, you dense fuck. Calling “cracker” a slur is fucking stupid, because White supremacy is still entrenched as the dominant ideology in the US.

        • @CommisarChowdahead
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          It’s a slur, if a weak one. But sure, advocating a broader movement built on their successes is chauvinist, I guess.

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              It’s all I can do short of flying there and picking up a rifle. I’m in and have been in a couple of orgs in real life that have given messages of support their way. What have you done for them?

              • Fiona (she/her)🏳️‍⚧️
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                Correct me if I’m wrong, but if they wouldn’t participate in a proletarian state in the event of one being formed in Mexico, proletarians would end up having to crush them and dispose of their unprincipled practices, right?

                I’m not the one fantasizing about crushing indigenous peoples if they don’t comply

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                  I’m not fantasizing about it, I was asking if it might have to happen. This is not the same as saying that it is should happen, this is wondering if conflict between militant non-Marxists and militant Marxists might come to pass, as it often has before. I reiterate, in what way have you done more than me?

          • @lxvi
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            The problem here is genocide, them barely speaking the same language, or sharing the same culture with proletarian Mexico, or even rural Mexico for that matter.

            All of these things that you want to have happened have happened Mexico and exist in the Mexican under currents.

            Why are you putting all of the eggs in one basket as if the rest of Mexico had no sense of self or class conscience? It’s because you don’t know what you’re talking about. All you know is the Zapatistas so you expect a bunch of indians in the jungle with no industrial base or capacity to wage an armed struggle against a far greater foe.

            Again, Mexico has a massive history of socialism, ML, strikes, general coalitions, and everything else you’d be expecting but you don’t know that.

            You don’t know anything about Mexico but you read a thing on the internet. It’s not even that you put too much weight into some hold-out indigenous movement; it’s that you do it at the expense of the rest of Mexico.